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    Default No XWayland Or XMir For X.Org Server 1.15

    Phoronix: No XWayland Or XMir For X.Org Server 1.15

    In case you missed it yesterday with announcing the X.Org Server 1.15 release candidate, XWayland nor XMir will be found in the next major update...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTUwMTc

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    Chang Liu 2013-09-29 01:21:06 EDT
    Created attachment 804623 [details]
    [PATCH] wayland: make xwayland optional

    The bug is caused by mutter-wayland trying to load XWayland,
    which is not built on most distros (including F20). This patch
    adds a runtime option for xwayland. With this change a user
    needs to explicitly specify --xwayland otherwise mutter-wayland
    will not try loading it.


    Jasper St. Pierre 2013-10-28 14:17:01 EDT
    No. mutter will not work without XWayland until we do some serious rearchitecting. We need to package XWayland in F20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coastiron View Post
    Chang Liu 2013-09-29 01:21:06 EDT
    Created attachment 804623 [details]
    [PATCH] wayland: make xwayland optional

    The bug is caused by mutter-wayland trying to load XWayland,
    which is not built on most distros (including F20). This patch
    adds a runtime option for xwayland. With this change a user
    needs to explicitly specify --xwayland otherwise mutter-wayland
    will not try loading it.


    Jasper St. Pierre 2013-10-28 14:17:01 EDT
    No. mutter will not work without XWayland until we do some serious rearchitecting. We need to package XWayland in F20.
    I wonder on the KDE front how things are going?!

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    I really hope that this won't slow down graphics card vendors' EGL efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSDude View Post
    I wonder on the KDE front how things are going?!
    They are rather focused on Qt5 for the moment. Better do great one thing at a time that try to do two things at a time.

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    Are there any arguments against it being less of a setback than it appears to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kostas View Post
    Are there any arguments against it being less of a setback than it appears to be?
    If there are any, I'm also interested in hearing them. Doesn't this mean serious Wayland usability limitations for distros that ship vanilla packages (until XWayland is finally merged in Q2'14)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jukkan View Post
    If there are any, I'm also interested in hearing them. Doesn't this mean serious Wayland usability limitations for distros that ship vanilla packages (until XWayland is finally merged in Q2'14)?
    Yes, it does create problems. Thankfully the biggest distros have ways of circumventing this...

    Ubuntu and Fedora don't mind patching packages, so they'll probably get it anyway. Arch has the ABS so if you need XWayland you can just yaourt -S xorg-xwayland. Gentoo... Yeah its Gentoo, people dont mind compiling packages lol. Suse... Not sure. Debian isnt really affected by this at all unless youre on Sid, I dont think.

    Any other 'big' distros I'm missing that ARENT covered by the above list? (Mint pulls from Ubuntu and Debian so thats covered, Sabayon pulls from Gentoo)

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    why do we care about Xwayland this is open Source just port the shit over to Wayland and be done with it all of are tool kits support Wayland so why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LinuxGamer View Post
    why do we care about Xwayland this is open Source just port the shit over to Wayland and be done with it all of are tool kits support Wayland so why not?
    As a gamer you should care, if you want to play games that won't be ported.

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