Mozilla Pushes "Shumway" Flash Into Firefox

[Pajn]

I found their .pdf reader to be very usable. Doubt there's more than 1% of cases it completely messes up. Can't see shumway being defaulted anytime soon though..

Nah, it messes up far more often that that.
But it's still usable. Even if it messes up on some parts
most of the documents is still readable. And if I want to
see a "perfect" version I just click on the button that say
it did mess up.

[Daktyl198]

Shumway is written in JavaScript, so I doubt. It's probably much slower.

Except, ya know, JavaScript performs MUCH faster in a browser than flash...

http://bubblemark.com/dhtml.htm

vs

http://bubblemark.com/flex.htm

^Try 128 bubbles on each. On my computer at least, the performance is 40fps (JavaScript) and 13fps (Flash).
Flash Cached gets ~32fps, so that's pretty close.

As a side-note: The Java Applet (via Swing) version got 32-33fps. I always assumed Flash on the web performed better than Java on the web... guess I was proven wrong.

So if Shumway gets developed correctly, it could outperform flash at rendering it's own files without requiring a plugin (thus, without having to spawn a new process to run it, saving memory and crap). Just a thought...

[Kostas]

Have you tried copying and pasting text from it?

Not until now. Haven't had a reason to

[LightBit]

Except, ya know, JavaScript performs MUCH faster in a browser than flash...

That is because flash also has scripting. Shumway will have to "translate" that scripts which will probably be slower.

[LightBit]

They developed and use http://asmjs.org/ in all such applications. It is significantly faster than regular JS

Does Firefox use this?

[RahulSundaram]

Does Firefox use this?

Yes. They developed it and they use it as I noted before.

[finalzone]

Does Firefox use this?

Check about:config in Firefox. In my case, version 24 has it enabled by default.

javascript.options.asmjs;true

[DeepDayze]

I was going to say - Mozilla's PDF reader is now pretty damn amazing now. If Shumway can reach that level, that would be great.

Yes I've been able to open PDF's with forms and signature panels with Mozilla's PDF reader and for those that glitch out I then open such PDF's in Adobe Reader. As it took a few releases to get the builtin PDF reader usable I'd say it would take just as long to get Shumway working well enough for most common sites.

I do wish that Mozilla can cave in and support Pepper as Google's is amenable to Mozilla adding Pepper support

[Kivada]

Does with with JW Player and Flowplayer?

Does it work on YouTube, PornTube, RedTube, xhamster, Beeg?

Yes, porn is the only thing that is keeping Flash alive.

Only if you're too dumb to know how to get your porn off a torrent site or a link trader. I'll ever get the appeal of the flash porn sites, the content is 99% overly compressed divx and mp4 content that is then further compressed and wrapped in a CPU roasting format, and for what? To save you a few mins of download time?

That said, I will be disabling Shumway the instant I download the version of Firfox that officially supports it and henceforth for all versions till eternity.

[LightBit]

Yes. They developed it and they use it as I noted before.

Well in that case it doesn't seem to be very fast. My Firefox (it is enabled) is very laggy on JavaScript heavy sites.