FreeBSD Is No Longer Building GCC By Default

[dee.]

In all the comparisons I've read here on phoronix, Clang turns out to be producing slower executables than GCC, at least in most cases and in most cases by a significant margin.

On the other hand, I understand that Clang usually compiles faster and it has a really cool architecture meaning you can leave your code compiled only half-way in byte-code form and finish the compilation at run time which is really useful in some OS-X graphics drivers.

Neither of these advantages seems like a real advantage to anybody who uses his computer mostly for other things than compiling software.

Am I missing something or have the FreeBSD demons entered a final stage of some supernatural mental dysfunction?

GCC is the GNU compiler collection. It's part of the GNU project, maintained by FSF. It's licensed under GPL.

FreeBSD hates GNU, they hate FSF, and they hate GPL. They want an entirely GPL-free system. So this is an entirely political move, screw the technical concerns.

[Sergio]

GCC is the GNU compiler collection. It's part of the GNU project, maintained by FSF. It's licensed under GPL.

FreeBSD hates GNU, they hate FSF, and they hate GPL. They want an entirely GPL-free system. So this is an entirely political move, screw the technical concerns.

Are you implying Clang has no technical merits?
Although the main reason could be political, I doubt FreeBSD would make such a drastic change if Clang didn't actually provide at least GCC's performance; the technical advantages of Clang over GCC have been stated here and justifies such change.

[dee.]

Are you implying Clang has no technical merits?
Although the main reason could be political, I doubt FreeBSD would make such a drastic change if Clang didn't actually provide at least GCC's performance; the technical advantages of Clang over GCC have been stated here and justifies such change.

Sure it probably has some merits, maybe, I don't know.

[Vim_User]

Sure it probably has some merits, maybe, I don't know.

So what you actually are saying is: I don't know about the technical background, I only joined the thread to bitch about politics.

[yogi_berra]

GCC is the GNU compiler collection. It's part of the GNU project, maintained by FSF. It's licensed under GPL.

FreeBSD hates GNU, they hate FSF, and they hate GPL. They want an entirely GPL-free system. So this is an entirely political move, screw the technical concerns.

So the planet is free to do whatever they want, just as long as you agree with it? Take your Stalinist world view and blow it out your ass.

[DanL]

So what you actually are saying is: I don't know about the technical background, I only joined the thread to bitch about politics.

That's half of all Phoronix forums posts (and probably most of dee.'s).

[AnonymousCoward]

So the planet is free to do whatever they want, just as long as you agree with it? Take your Stalinist world view and blow it out your ass.

So women are free to do whatever they want, just as long as they obey their husband? Take your taliban world view and blow it out your ass.

* you are not the only one who can put words in other peoples mouths, and use that as a basis to attack them..

[eltomito]

GCC is the GNU compiler collection. It's part of the GNU project, maintained by FSF. It's licensed under GPL.

FreeBSD hates GNU, they hate FSF, and they hate GPL. They want an entirely GPL-free system. So this is an entirely political move, screw the technical concerns.

Okay, I didn't know about their license tastes. Actually being stuck with GCC 4.2.1, I understand they prefer LLVM. To them, it's a future compared to no future. And a more recent LLVM is definitely not bad at all against GCC 4.2.1, at least not according to phoronix.

GCC 4.2.1 vs Clang 3.1: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._llvmgcc&num=4
GCC 4.8.1 vs Clang 3.3: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...l_llvm33&num=3

[Vim_User]

So women are free to do whatever they want, just as long as they obey their husband? Take your taliban world view and blow it out your ass.

* you are not the only one who can put words in other peoples mouths, and use that as a basis to attack them..

Only that yogi_berra based it on what dee. has posted and you are just pulling stuff out of nowhere.

[Marc Driftmeyer]

GCC is the GNU compiler collection. It's part of the GNU project, maintained by FSF. It's licensed under GPL.

FreeBSD hates GNU, they hate FSF, and they hate GPL. They want an entirely GPL-free system. So this is an entirely political move, screw the technical concerns.

It's always comforting to know that technically inclined people can continue to be technical incompetent and devoid of any sense of reason, whilst swimming in a sea of zealotry.