GNOME 3.10 Continues Pushing Ahead With Wayland

[danielnez1]

Compare recent Gnome and KDE releases. Who gained most features? Gnome by far. Just like they are way ahead on wayland development and adoption.

KDE already has plenty of features, while GNOME 3 is quite spartan, so I don't really get your point.

I consider many of the tweak tools features to be anti-features. Including some I use. Just like some extensions. I suffer from old habits and Im very happy to consider my self more bugged than the software I use I think the developers have very good reason to put certain anti-features in the tweak tool instead of the control center. And the tweak tool is still the smelly kid in class, but this cycle it at least got dressed up with style. Still I can do what ever I want in Gnome. Gnome is just more focused on the core UX and support that very well. KDE is a mess trying to support everything. Both Gnome and KDE fails at being high quality for every kind usage, naturally because they lack developers caring about corner cases. At least Gnome is honest about, where as KDE is mess. I really can't see why Gnome should be hated for being honest and admitting they can't support everyone.

So you are now admitting that GNOME is under resourced, well at least you are starting to see the light! However the problem is the "core UX", mainly the GNOME Shell. Since the adoption of "it's our way or the highway" mantra, they seem fully intent on stripping out features and functionality. Sure you can restore some of them by extensions, but they are a kludge rather than a solution as they can be buggy and cause breakages.

[Teho]

Thank God Red Hat is doing SDDM.

None of the SDDM developers work for Red Hat. It looks likely that KDE will adopt it as the default display manager along with Hawaii and probably "LXDE/Razor-qt". Fedora using it for 20 is great though.

KDE doesn't screw up on the DM and five years of flame work is avoided when systemd soon will take over session management.

The systemd taking over session management is unrelated to the display manager situation.

It is just like when mum bakes a cake before the kids gets home from school. It is less messy to get the work done before raving kids starts baking or coding.

Your idiocy doesn't cease to amaze me.

[TheBlackCat]

Compare recent Gnome and KDE releases. Who gained most features? Gnome by far. Just like they are way ahead on wayland development and adoption.

KDE devs just can't win. When they focus on features, people complain that they aren't doing enough bugfixing and polishing. When they focus on bugfixing and polishing (the explicit goal of the last couple of releases), people complain that they don't have enough new features.

But ignoring that, you are just being intentionally dishonest now. You know full well most of the efforts in KDE are going towards frameworks 5, and that the release of a Wayland-ready version of KDE workspaces is dependent on the release of frameworks 5. This has been explained over and over and over again. But you insist on ignoring this and pretending that the lack of new features recently is some fundamental problem with KDE rather than a symptom of efforts going towards a new major release (which Gnome also had for Gnome 3).

[danielnez1]

Gnome is under resourced to the level where development pace have reached a maximum yes. Doing more requires extra resources. That is why saying no is so important. KDE's situation is much worse because they can't say no. So how does the ever fewer KDE developers manage to maintain the huuuge code base and develop new features? Answer: They don't. That is why ebarrasing bugs are left unfixed and new release features are something to dream of.

The GNOME devs seemed to get on just fine with managing the functionality of GNOME 2, so I fail to see why they would need to remove functionality, that could suggest there are fewer developers now.

Regarding KDE, they release bug fixes just like any other active project, and KDE already enjoys a wide range of features so you are either hopelessly misinformed or just spreading more FUD as usual.

[Awesomeness]

you are just being intentionally dishonest now.

Dishonest trolls? who would've thought?

[jukkan]

Personally I think..

KDE's interface is..

Now on the gnome side..

My thoughts exactly.