It'd be nice if Phoronix goes into reviewing notebooks and other hardware for Linux compatibility, stability, power efficiency and then performance more often. Maybe you can try to get some sort of partnership with OEMs and/or retailers assuming they don't "encourage" you to write biased reviews for them sending you review units.
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Originally posted by matt98 View PostIt'd be nice if Phoronix goes into reviewing notebooks and other hardware for Linux compatibility, stability, power efficiency and then performance more often. Maybe you can try to get some sort of partnership with OEMs and/or retailers assuming they don't "encourage" you to write biased reviews for them sending you review units.
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Originally posted by 89c51 View PostAnd you will get more Linux is still a lemon on {insert random product here}. We have to live with the fact that big manufacturers don't give a fuck about desktop linux and those that do make ugly hardware (ie. System76 and the lot).
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Originally posted by beidl View PostIf anybody, it's Apples fault. Read this blog post of GregKH about how they f*cked up the implementation of their own Thunderbolt spec...
http://www.kroah.com/log/blog/2013/06/20/hardware/
It turns out that that Apple, in their infinite wisdom, doesn?t follow the specification, but rather, they require a kernel driver to do all of the work that the BIOS is supposed to be doing. This works out well for them as they can share the same code from their BIOS with their kernel, but for any other operating system, that doesn?t know how to talk directly to the hardware at that level, you are out of luck. So, no Thunderbolt support on Apple hardware for Linux (at least through May 2013, maybe newer models will change this, but I?m not counting on it.)
I guarantee you Intel isn't whining that Apple implemented it this way.
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The thing here is that technically Apple doesn't use a BioS. So obviously there would be no support for BioS on their machines.
Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View PostGregKH calls the co-designer of Thunderbolt fucking up their own implementation with this quote:
The Mach XNU Kernel is designed specifically to work and leverage the hardware in this manner. This is not a `fuck up,' as he rightly points out the direct advantage this gives Apple talking directly to that hardware at that level.
I guarantee you Intel isn't whining that Apple implemented it this way.
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Originally posted by TheBlackCat View PostThey broke the spec they helped created. It was obviously intentional, but it still broke the spec.
It actually perplexes me that so many see Apple hardware as PC compatible when it obviously isn't. Nor was any of Apples hardware ever intended to be PC compatible in its base form. Reading a spec for PC hardware and then trying to blame Apple for not implementing it is frankly stupid.
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Originally posted by wizard69 View PostApple doesn't make PC compatibles so it isn't really possible for them to break the spec. BioS is an ancient technology from the PC compatible land, Apple doesn't make PC compatibles. In fact most PC operating systems require that you install boot camp on the Mac hardware to do an install.
It actually perplexes me that so many see Apple hardware as PC compatible when it obviously isn't. Nor was any of Apples hardware ever intended to be PC compatible in its base form. Reading a spec for PC hardware and then trying to blame Apple for not implementing it is frankly stupid.
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Originally posted by phoronix View PostPhoronix: Linux Is Still A Lemon On The 2013 MacBook Air
While the 2013 Haswell-based Apple MacBook Air has been on the market for the better part of two months, the Linux kernel still isn't playing nicely with this very light laptop that under OS X boasts a long battery life...
http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQyNDk
You're going to have to give them a bit of a biscuit on this one before they'll handle your hardware vendor's assclown move.
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