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Originally posted by tarceri View PostWhile I can't stop anyone starting up a new project the problem I see with a competition (aside from the duplication of effort) is that you need a non profit org to sign on to the idea otherwise the prize money would likely get taxed twice, once when the organiser collected the money and again when it was paid to the dev. Just something to think about it you are going to follow up on the idea.Last edited by chrisb; 28 July 2013, 07:25 PM.
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Originally posted by archibald View PostA competition wouldn't just be bad for the losers, it'd be bad for the whole of mesa: by definition you'd have 10 people working on 1 feature. Wouldn't it be better (less duplication of effort, faster support for new OpenGL versions) to have them working on different extensions?
If it's a competition then anybody who can work on it full time (or take some time off work) would be at a significant advantage. I don't think that a competition will attract more people to it.
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Originally posted by Ancurio View PostI can't even explain how shitty of an idea this "competition" is. Take the people with full time jobs first: "Hm, should I give up a months worth of work, for the possibility of receiving a price afterwards, while running the risk of not being able to pay rent and feed my family?". Which leaves out only students as potential partakers. Then, the first one to implement a sloppy version that is badly documented, but still somehow works, gets the price. Practitioners would try to take as many short cuts as possible. That surely can't be considered "quality open source development".
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Originally posted by Ancurio View PostI can't even explain how shitty of an idea this "competition" is. Take the people with full time jobs first: "Hm, should I give up a months worth of work, for the possibility of receiving a price afterwards, while running the risk of not being able to pay rent and feed my family?". Which leaves out only students as potential partakers. Then, the first one to implement a sloppy version that is badly documented, but still somehow works, gets the price. Practitioners would try to take as many short cuts as possible. That surely can't be considered "quality open source development".
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donated too
tarceri,
I donated a bit to your cause. I really think a video is unnecessary for the amount of money you're expecting. I wouldn't bother with it. It's just more work for you.
A few questions out of curiosity:
a) Are you in Silicon Valley?
b) How long do you expect to work on this project? $2500 isn't a lot for a guy with children (I know, because I'm in the same boat), so is this a one week job?
Anyway, good luck!
-Cameron
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Originally posted by hiryu View Posttarceri,
I donated a bit to your cause. I really think a video is unnecessary for the amount of money you're expecting. I wouldn't bother with it. It's just more work for you.
Originally posted by hiryu View PostA few questions out of curiosity:
a) Are you in Silicon Valley?
Originally posted by hiryu View Postb) How long do you expect to work on this project? $2500 isn't a lot for a guy with children (I know, because I'm in the same boat), so is this a one week job?
Originally posted by hiryu View PostAnyway, good luck!
-Cameron
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At the outset not a developer, just a user.
just a bit curious to know, was your work merged in mesa ? I did see you were able to get the required money http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/he...aphics-drivers and you also did the work that you said you would https://github.com/tarceri/mesa-debug but what is unknown (to me) was that work merged in mesa ?
I did look at the mesa mailing list and saw all your patches but it isn't clear either from the git repo. or from the mesa mailing list http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...st/thread.html if those patches were accepted or not.
Would be nice to know. I'm sure phoronix shed light on it one way or the other but unfortunately dunno the right keyword to see what happened. The last story I could find on this is http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQzMjU , maybe another news item/story came out after it ?
Update: Just saw this :-
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQ0NTg and saw the forum activity. Also saw the wiki page which was last updated 6 days ago. https://github.com/tarceri/mesa-debu...aphics-Library . Seems you're still pursuing a bit of the TODO which is left.
While didn't donate, once I know how your work was appreciated by mesa (or not) would share the same in some dev. circles in india. At the very least people would know that they can make a bit of money and people are interested in seeing mesa improve.Last edited by shirish; 05 September 2013, 04:30 PM.
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Originally posted by shirish View PostAt the outset not a developer, just a user.
just a bit curious to know, was your work merged in mesa ? I did see you were able to get the required money http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/he...aphics-drivers and you also did the work that you said you would https://github.com/tarceri/mesa-debug but what is unknown (to me) was that work merged in mesa ?
I did look at the mesa mailing list and saw all your patches but it isn't clear either from the git repo. or from the mesa mailing list http://lists.freedesktop.org/archive...st/thread.html if those patches were accepted or not.
Would be nice to know. I'm sure phoronix shed light on it one way or the other but unfortunately dunno the right keyword to see what happened. The last story I could find on this is http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQzMjU , maybe another news item/story came out after it ?
Update: Just saw this :-
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQ0NTg and saw the forum activity. Also saw the wiki page which was last updated 6 days ago. https://github.com/tarceri/mesa-debu...aphics-Library . Seems you're still pursuing a bit of the TODO which is left.
While didn't donate, once I know how your work was appreciated by mesa (or not) would share the same in some dev. circles in india. At the very least people would know that they can make a bit of money and people are interested in seeing mesa improve.
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Originally posted by Ancurio View PostYou must have looked wrong. I can see all his patches properly commited in the git log (main commit).
I did see after I posted Brian Paul's offer to commit after Timothy did the changes. See :-
so did realize it was considered for committing to mesa. Your reply just confirmed it. So good all around .
Now the only thing what people would be waiting for perhaps is his documentation about how he went about doing what he did. I'm sure quite a few people may have chipped so the documentation can help newbie devs. who want to get their feet wet.
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