in the case of Mir/XMir is nothing more that witchcraft to say since Mir is an actual server like X11ish and the API is too inmature for sure but i guess from what is technically known that XMir will be more invasive to drivers than XWayland and probably less performant, maybe in 6 months would be easier to discern[assuming is actually finished at all ofc]
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Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Posti have done a lot of DE work in the pasted given you dont have to use Compiz to make a DE look use like Unity and QT has full support for Wayland so if needed you can change maybe 300 to 2k lines of code to make it work on Wayland i forgot who did it but some one taken Gnome 3 and made a Unity looking DE out of it and just a few days
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Originally posted by jrch2k8 View Postwell wayland is a close to the hardware as you can get without using TGSI or GPU ASM so basically there is no need at all and in the case of XWayland you can probably still use existing methods with a simpleish bypass or simply use your favorite languages like OpenVG, OpenGL, OpenGL ES 1,2,3, Pixman, Cairo, etc.
the point is Wayland is not a Process/Server like Mir is a simple protocol library that actually do nothing except give you a language to initialize the GPU to a workable state after that you can basically manipulate the GPU as you wish with no middleman, so in theory intel could use SNA with XWayland directly like with Xorg.
my only doubt is if Xorg itself allows so and if both Xorg and Wayland can access the GPU in parallel without sync issue, it shouldn't be a problem in theory since XWayland will be rootless but still maybe someone closer to XWayland and Xorg can provide a more deep insight
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Originally posted by mrugiero View PostWhat I meant is if there is an API that is close to hardware and does the kind of operations X.org did before, but to use without X.org (so you can use it with Wayland and Mir); I'm aware Wayland does few aside of buffer management. But I already read a bit on OpenVG, and seems to do this kind of basic operation.
For Mir no one knows how will handle things or if they would need a full translation
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Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Posti don't get how they're saying any thing is "stable" when it's not even Developed....
Originally posted by synaptix View PostWayland is for the entire Linux community, 100% progression for Linux. Almost all of the major distros (except Ubuntu) and DE's support Wayland.
Mir is for Ubuntu/Unity, fragmentation and reverse progression for Linux. The only ones supporting Mir is Canonical.
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The answers were on IRC (#dri-devel).
There is a log, you can look at it.
EDIT: http://people.freedesktop.org/~cbril...ate=2013-07-22
look at RAOF.
There may be other channels where they have discussed of it.Last edited by mannerov; 24 July 2013, 05:40 AM.
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