Posted by Dee
What they did was, they backstabbed the entire Linux ecosystem. Instead of backing the modern next-gen display server they had promised, they made their own in-house solution, which is basically just a rip-off of Wayland and other people's code. XMir is a plain xerox copy of XWayland. Libhybris was first developed for Wayland, by Jolla employees, to allow Wayland to use Android drivers, then Canonical ripped it off and even tried to present it as their own work.
What they did was, they backstabbed the entire Linux ecosystem. Instead of backing the modern next-gen display server they had promised, they made their own in-house solution, which is basically just a rip-off of Wayland and other people's code. XMir is a plain xerox copy of XWayland. Libhybris was first developed for Wayland, by Jolla employees, to allow Wayland to use Android drivers, then Canonical ripped it off and even tried to present it as their own work.
So, everyone pretty much saw the advantages of Wayland, and that we should be moving towards it - even Canonical. Shuttleworth himself said "Canonical fully supports Wayland, Ubuntu will use Wayland in the future". Every other major distro, every desktop environment and toolkit, Mesa, the rest of the graphics stack, threw their support towards Wayland - so we had a clear, easy migration path away from X: Distros could provide Wayland with XWayland for legacy X apps, while most apps would be getting Wayland support via modern toolkits such as GTK3, Qt5 or EFL. Legacy apps that still use older toolkits would use Xwayland as rootless application-specific X servers and everything would be fine. To top that, we were getting mobile Linux systems (Sailfish, Tizen) using Wayland, Wayland was being adopted in embedded and IVI systems - we were finally getting a display server that would unify the entire Linux ecosystem, not just on the desktop but everywhere. You'd have to be a fool not to see the benefits of this.
Of course, as so often happens, someone dropped the ball - and this was Canonical. What they did was abominable.
What they did was, they backstabbed the entire Linux ecosystem
So now, instead of that clean, easy migration path to Wayland, we have this competitor - Mir, and no one really likes it - the toolkits, other DE's, etc. - none of them really want anything to do with it.
It wont affect you since you wont ever go near it so why carry on about it day after day. Get a fucking life loser
The worst impact will be on software that doesn't for some reason use toolkits, but needs to talk to the display server directly - think: games
I speak for myself only, and I'm sure there are some who really, really dislike Canonical and Ubuntu for whatever reasons, but I don't. I like Ubuntu and wish only good things for it. I really would like to see Canonical succeed in creating a mainstream Linux OS, bringing desktop Linux to the mainstream.
posted by synaptix
I do remember Shuttleworth saying Ubuntu was fully supporting Wayland and would eventually be moving to Wayland, which was great considering that means my current distro (Xubuntu) would most likely follow suite.
I thought Wayland? Cool, something new that would be better than Xorg (Xorg is still great, but does have it's problems). I was happy to see the most populated distro in Linux supporting this project.
But then Canonical vomited out Mir. Ubuntu will be using Mir from now on soon enough, but I'm not so sure about it's derivatives such as Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu and of course Linix Mint as well. Think I read somewhere that Xubuntu would be staying on Xorg and wouldn't go Mir.
I do remember Shuttleworth saying Ubuntu was fully supporting Wayland and would eventually be moving to Wayland, which was great considering that means my current distro (Xubuntu) would most likely follow suite.
I thought Wayland? Cool, something new that would be better than Xorg (Xorg is still great, but does have it's problems). I was happy to see the most populated distro in Linux supporting this project.
But then Canonical vomited out Mir. Ubuntu will be using Mir from now on soon enough, but I'm not so sure about it's derivatives such as Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu and of course Linix Mint as well. Think I read somewhere that Xubuntu would be staying on Xorg and wouldn't go Mir.
posted by Bo$$
I never baited anything.
I never baited anything.
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