I believe his street cred went out the window with the reversal on Wayland and "creating" Mir atop of Wayland's multi-year efforts. They painted themselves in a corner, and Mir better be all that and a bag of chips when it's delivered, or it's highly unlikely anyone's going to take Canonical seriously for long.....
Originally Posted by valeriodean
Is there any proof they forked the code. They said they investigated Wayland and found it wanting, so they designed their own display server to suit the moving into mobile device market and traditional desktops.
Originally Posted by rockmen1
The thing that has haunted Linux for its existence has been graphic speeds and sound. Mir and PulseAudio have now come to the rescue.
Pulse audio need more graphical means to manipulate record and play channels and their mixing, and Mir needs to be taken up by proprietary hardware makers and the future is Linux's.
Other qualities will be true colour mapping, real time sound capturing, real time interaction streaming, etc.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but last I remember hearing Canonical spent very little time addressing the technical concerns they had of Wayland, and even less time actually discussing their concerns with the Wayland developers in an attempt to find universal solutions with the rest of the linux-desktop dev community. Mark's words here feel exactly like his post-mir blog entries... BS claims for the sake of marketing. What's sad is how effective it seems to be... I honestly wounder if bringing "Mir" to 13.10 isn't just a PR move. "Look, we made a Mir-based OS in under a year! Where's your god now, Wayland fans?".
Originally Posted by Mark Shuttleworth
PS. I would have posted this on the actual blog, but my last two posts there (non-offensive critisizms of Mir) where deleted and I was banned from posting on that blog entry.. I have a feeling it wasn't the automated-spam-filter that deleted them, but regardless, I'm not posting somewhere that has such rigid guidelines about leaving feedback. I purposely didn't even curse, so I'm not sure what the spam filter would have even thought was bad..
Last edited by F i L; 07-09-2013 at 02:27 PM.
Last edited by blackout23; 07-09-2013 at 02:31 PM.
I do not think that Lennart Poettering would terribly appreciate being considerd as hopping through a magical field hand in hand with Mark Shuttleworth. Especally since to him the future is most definitely systemd, pulseaudio, and wayland.
Originally Posted by e8hffff
Mir is a confidence trick, of course he will not tolerate anything that pops the bubble.
Originally Posted by F i L
So basically this is equivalent to putting a Wine layer on top of a game release and calling it a native Linux port. Only this time it is a display server...
Originally Posted by blackout23
Originally Posted by coder543
Wayland has been in Fedora since 2010-11-15 . People are running GTK+ apps natively in Wayland on Fedora:
The GNOME Wiki even has the instructions:
I do find it amazing how willing people are to say things that are so utterly and completely wrong that they could check for themselves with Google and thirty seconds.