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    Default Fedora 19 Officially Released

    Phoronix: Fedora 19 Officially Released

    On Tuesday morning, Fedora 19 Linux was officially released...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTQwMTA

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    Good job, Fedora developers.

    But Michael, your latest articles make it look like you were really tired back then Sentences starting without capital letters, random links...

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    Default Great GNOME integration

    The GNOME integration on Ubuntu 13.04 was so bad that I switched to Fedora 19 alpha... It has been running smoothly ever since! I just recommand it!
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    Yep, Fedora 19 is really great. I'm so happy I switched to Fedora when it was at 17, never want to go back :-D.

    To everyone at Fedora: Thanks! You are great :-).

    And Gnome Shell is shaping up really great, except gpk-application. That's the sole thing they really could make better.
    It just stalls to much "waiting in queue" without any apparent reason, that's a bit frustating.
    And the search function could be improved. Currently you need to know the name of a package, otherwise you won't find it.

    Though I expect this is going to be better with the hawkeye/libresolv stuff.

    But yeah, Fedora is really cool, and everyone should try it out :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitRot View Post
    And Gnome Shell is shaping up really great, except gpk-application. That's the sole thing they really could make better.
    It just stalls to much "waiting in queue" without any apparent reason, that's a bit frustating.
    And the search function could be improved. Currently you need to know the name of a package, otherwise you won't find it.
    Definitely the biggest setback when you come from Ubuntu like me. I wonder when "Software" replacement will be ready, I like the designs they are providing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitRot View Post
    Yep, Fedora 19 is really great. I'm so happy I switched to Fedora when it was at 17, never want to go back :-D.

    To everyone at Fedora: Thanks! You are great :-).

    And Gnome Shell is shaping up really great, except gpk-application. That's the sole thing they really could make better.
    It just stalls to much "waiting in queue" without any apparent reason, that's a bit frustating.
    And the search function could be improved. Currently you need to know the name of a package, otherwise you won't find it.

    Though I expect this is going to be better with the hawkeye/libresolv stuff.

    But yeah, Fedora is really cool, and everyone should try it out :-)
    Yeah, we know for sure there are some issues with PK. I believe there's work ongoing to reduce the necessity of exclusive locks as much as possible, and there are a few different plans for providing a better UI for 'installing software' (as opposed to a 'package management' UI, which is more or less what gpk is). Thanks for the feedback!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamW View Post
    Yeah, we know for sure there are some issues with PK. I believe there's work ongoing to reduce the necessity of exclusive locks as much as possible, and there are a few different plans for providing a better UI for 'installing software' (as opposed to a 'package management' UI, which is more or less what gpk is). Thanks for the feedback!

    Isn't the 0.9.8 branch of package kit all about reducing locks?


    back on topic of the release... "fedup --network 19" ran as expected, minus that it uninstalls the grub theme for some reason, but otherwise a seem less update.


    fresh install also ran as expected, no hiccups. That being said, why no grub theme? I no its not a big deal, just seems odd that 18 had one and 19 is just a black and white menu. Also, as of 2 days ago, encryption on ssd's is still broken but thats a systemd / dracut problem not an installer problem.


    Otherwise a great release, good job fedora team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    Isn't the 0.9.8 branch of package kit all about reducing locks?
    I don't recall specific versions, but I'm pretty sure there's still fresh work planned.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    back on topic of the release... "fedup --network 19" ran as expected, minus that it uninstalls the grub theme for some reason
    That would be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=975800 , we are fixing it right now (it was supposed to be fixed already, but the fix was faulty). 'yum install grub2-starfield-theme' will get the theme back if you want it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    but otherwise a seem less update.
    Yay!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    fresh install also ran as expected, no hiccups. That being said, why no grub theme? I no its not a big deal, just seems odd that 18 had one and 19 is just a black and white menu.
    So, the fact it gets lost on upgrade is just a bug (see above). But fresh F19 installs do actually use an un-themed, console mode grub2. There's a few reasons for this. Themed graphical grub2 seems to be very slow on some systems, for one thing. We ran into various problems with the modesetting and theming stuff for the releases we were using it; pjones and I and others are now of the general opinion that just using console mode is likely the safest thing to do for the foreseeable future. And theming grub turned out just not to look that great if you take a step back and look at the whole boot process - we had this vision a few releases back that we'd try to keep the entire boot process very visually consistent, with grub, bootsplash and gdm all using the same background and minimizing mode switches, but that's just not all in place at present, so it actually looks more jarring to do a modeswitch / theme for grub2 then suddenly jump back to console mode briefly while plymouth comes up, then modeset again and show an entirely different image (the 'plain blue background with a Fedora logo' bootsplash) than it does to simply use console mode for grub.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    Also, as of 2 days ago, encryption on ssd's is still broken but thats a systemd / dracut problem not an installer problem.
    How do you mean 'broken'? I'm running F19 on my laptop with encrypted LVM and it works fine so far as I can see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ericg View Post
    Otherwise a great release, good job fedora team
    Thanks! Glad you're enjoying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honton View Post
    There was a bug a few weeks ago related to the app locking up when promted by many updates. Reportd by the fine fedorians and fixed by upstream.


    It is coming to Gnome, but Im not sure about Fedora.
    https://plus.google.com/107928060492...ts/AXAMmAXMoAc
    Richard Hughes who is developing it is a Fedora developer who wrote PackageKit, GNOME Power manager etc and it will be integrated into Fedora as soon as it is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RahulSundaram View Post
    Richard Hughes who is developing it is a Fedora developer who wrote PackageKit, GNOME Power manager etc and it will be integrated into Fedora as soon as it is ready.
    Sounds good, can't wait for it.
    I already love the designs. :-)

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