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    Default LXDE-Based Lubuntu Will Not Ship Mir Display Server

    Phoronix: LXDE-Based Lubuntu Will Not Ship Mir Display Server

    The LXDE-based derivative of Ubuntu Linux has no plans to be using Mir, regardless of XMir or not...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTM5OTI

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    One by one, the oppressed peasants are turning against their master... the people will not stand for this travesty! The excesses of the elite must be curbed! Soon, a mob with pitchforks will gather around the walls of the Canonical palace, demanding Shuttleworth's head on a pike...

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    Default Distaste? Really?

    So please tell me where exactly in the following post does the Lubuntu guy "express distaste"?

    https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ub...ne/037419.html

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    Should be noticed Wayland doesn't fit Lubuntu's needs either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrugiero View Post
    Should be noticed Wayland doesn't fit Lubuntu's needs either.
    Why wouldn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Why wouldn't it?
    Performance: "
    This is currently an issue for Lubuntu, because, if i understand
    correctly, we are going to replace an X + openbox (without composite)
    with a Mir + XMir + composite windows manager (?). Considering the
    very bad performance on some of our target hardware running under a
    composite manager, I'm quite worrying about the performance
    difference."

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    Thumbs down

    looks like Canonical is getting what it wants just a little faster then it hoped for "Mir is a one distribution solution for our needs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Why wouldn't it?
    From the article:

    In particular, Lubuntu is worried about poor performance if using a compositing window manager.
    I have to agree, that this could easily be overseen in such an awfully long article.

    Btw

    We currently plan to ship X only
    by default for 13.10 and 14.04 for Lubuntu, with eventually an option
    to test XMir, to prepare the future
    .
    Is that your interpretation of "distaste", Mr. Phoronix? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Why wouldn't it?
    They want to avoid the use of compositing, and both native Mir and native Wayland require compositing, and both XMir and Xwayland are useless as a desktop solution (useless as not giving nothing that a plain X.org doesn't give you). And this is, as pointed out, because they aim to low resources computers. Compositing has better performance on a lot of use cases, but it also leads to higher memory use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrugiero
    Should be noticed Wayland doesn't fit Lubuntu's needs either.
    Quote Originally Posted by dee. View Post
    Why wouldn't it?
    XMir is going to be the X stack that receives the most attention from Canonical, as well as from other Ubuntu developers working on Ubuntu-Unity.
    The Lubuntu team won't have resources to maintain their own display stack ...
    And given the tendency for bugs to arise as a result of mismatches between X+mesa, or X+mesa+kernel.

    So I'm convinced that Lubuntu (and others) will switch to XMir / Mir by 14.04 (or 14.10)
    If not then I'm skeptical that there is any long term future for non-Unity flavors in Ubuntu

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