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    Default Is Valve's Steam Client Bad & Damaging For Linux?

    Phoronix: Is Valve's Steam Client Bad & Damaging For Linux?

    When I exclusively reported last year that Valve would be releasing their Steam client for Linux and Source Engine, most Linux desktop users and gamers were filled with joy. However, now that the Steam client is out in the wild and more and more games are coming to Linux via this digital distribution system, it seems not everyone is happy...

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    It's good for Linux and hopefully draws attention from Logitech and alike which are still to lazy or ignore open source at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike4 View Post
    It's good for Linux and hopefully draws attention from Logitech and alike which are still to lazy or ignore open source at all.
    Buy Roccat instead. All their drivers are open source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureSuture View Post
    Buy Roccat instead. All their drivers are open source.
    I just ordered a Ryos MK Pro and Tyon mouse due to this post. Hopefully I don't regret it, but after trying out a few mechanical keyboards, I decided I wanted one, and well the Tyon has a bilion mouse buttons which is nice.

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    For me the Valve effort to bring steam to Linux is a good decision.

    Even for people who do not use steam at all!

    because they profit from;
    (1.) more hardware to buy to run openosurce: steam-controller, steam box and so one.
    (2.) more developers for opensource drivers and opensource system tools and other software they use from debian.
    (3.) bigger market share for FOSS OS linux means more support from other companies.

    and for people wo do use steam on linux:

    more games on Linux plus they even save the Microsoft tax !

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    Default No but....

    Valve using Linux is the best thing that could have happened to Linux. The only damage is if Valve pulls the plug. If that happens then I think Linux's reputation would take a pretty bad hit. I honestly think it was a good decision. Microsoft has been trying to get gamers off Windows and onto there Xbox platforms and also have been planning on having there own software store in the future. Mac is not to much different. Linux lets Valve worry about the games ( mostly ) and not which direction the OS is going.

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    No, in a word.

    DRM sucks, it isn't going away. The alternative is HiB which has some pretty rough ports with no updates....

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    Wow, just wow. Finally, a commercial company is porting his games to Linux and some people start bashing their effort? Don't want closed-source? Then don't use it. And if you want to bash, bash all the other companies that are not even considering porting their games to Linux.

    Sjees...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jan1024188 View Post
    Steam is optional. If you don't like proprietary software, than don't use it. Case closed. Go play console tic-tac-toe instead and stay in your mom's basement.
    Just to be clear, Michael Larabel completely butchered the objections to Steam. I'm a huge fan of for-pay games, proprietary software, and DRM in addition to open source. I hope you read my other post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexilion View Post
    Wow, just wow. Finally, a commercial company is porting his games to Linux and some people start bashing their effort? Don't want closed-source? Then don't use it. And if you want to bash, bash all the other companies that are not even considering porting their games to Linux.
    That's not fair. I'm ecstatic about all the big proprietary companies bringing AAA games to Linux this year and will pay full price for many of them. I just don't think that Valve has this righteous position as the universal rent collector on all games that are completely developed and funded outside of Valve. Even my favorite game developer, Rockstar Games, doesn't deserve this rent seeking privilege.

    Quote Originally Posted by enfocomp View Post
    This is exactly why the Linux has never taken off on the desktop. People bitch about politics too much instead of actually progressing the operating system for the majority of users. Ever since Valve started working on Linux with STEAM, both NVIDIA and AMD have been finding (and fixing) countless issues that plagued the OS for years! This is a good thing, no?
    Linux has never taken off in the past because:

    - work/school productivity users were predominantly tied to Win/Mac.
    - basic functionality was a mess in the past.
    - Game development has been so heavily tied to either consoles or Windows.
    - Desktop and game dev sdks have been a mess.

    Linux has turned a corner on the first two. Android/iOS have completely blown the third item out of the water. The fourth one is making progress as well. Valve has had some contribution, but it's been minor and these things would have happened without them.
    Last edited by DanLamb; 04-08-2013 at 02:28 AM.

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    Steam is optional. If you don't like proprietary software, than don't use it. Case closed. Go play console tic-tac-toe instead and stay in your mom's basement.

    Proprietary software is what GNU/Linux needs right now. We need professional a-grade games, video editors etc. Not to mention software companies like Valve are contributing a lot to drivers, tools etc... things that we would not have otherwise. Linux needs a good push in right direction, we wan't it to be 'better', don't we?

    I just don't see how can a hippie in his basement develop a $1,000,000 software project by himself. Unfortunately, some software has to be proprietary to exist. It is fundamentally impossible for it to be free as freedom or even free as free beer.

    Now, from perspective of end user - I want to play PROPRIETARY game, I have these options:
    - Boot into Windows and suffer
    - Run VM and suffer
    - Go with Wine and hope it works semi-decently and suffer
    - Double click in Steam and play and have good time

    I think the latter option is best for everyone. Thank you Valve for your effort to make it possible.
    Last edited by jan1024188; 04-07-2013 at 12:00 PM.

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