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    Default Is Valve's Steam Client Bad & Damaging For Linux?

    Phoronix: Is Valve's Steam Client Bad & Damaging For Linux?

    When I exclusively reported last year that Valve would be releasing their Steam client for Linux and Source Engine, most Linux desktop users and gamers were filled with joy. However, now that the Steam client is out in the wild and more and more games are coming to Linux via this digital distribution system, it seems not everyone is happy...

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    It's good for Linux and hopefully draws attention from Logitech and alike which are still to lazy or ignore open source at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike4 View Post
    It's good for Linux and hopefully draws attention from Logitech and alike which are still to lazy or ignore open source at all.
    Buy Roccat instead. All their drivers are open source.

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    No, in a word.

    DRM sucks, it isn't going away. The alternative is HiB which has some pretty rough ports with no updates....

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    Wow, just wow. Finally, a commercial company is porting his games to Linux and some people start bashing their effort? Don't want closed-source? Then don't use it. And if you want to bash, bash all the other companies that are not even considering porting their games to Linux.

    Sjees...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jan1024188 View Post
    Steam is optional. If you don't like proprietary software, than don't use it. Case closed. Go play console tic-tac-toe instead and stay in your mom's basement.
    Just to be clear, Michael Larabel completely butchered the objections to Steam. I'm a huge fan of for-pay games, proprietary software, and DRM in addition to open source. I hope you read my other post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexilion View Post
    Wow, just wow. Finally, a commercial company is porting his games to Linux and some people start bashing their effort? Don't want closed-source? Then don't use it. And if you want to bash, bash all the other companies that are not even considering porting their games to Linux.
    That's not fair. I'm ecstatic about all the big proprietary companies bringing AAA games to Linux this year and will pay full price for many of them. I just don't think that Valve has this righteous position as the universal rent collector on all games that are completely developed and funded outside of Valve. Even my favorite game developer, Rockstar Games, doesn't deserve this rent seeking privilege.

    Quote Originally Posted by enfocomp View Post
    This is exactly why the Linux has never taken off on the desktop. People bitch about politics too much instead of actually progressing the operating system for the majority of users. Ever since Valve started working on Linux with STEAM, both NVIDIA and AMD have been finding (and fixing) countless issues that plagued the OS for years! This is a good thing, no?
    Linux has never taken off in the past because:

    - work/school productivity users were predominantly tied to Win/Mac.
    - basic functionality was a mess in the past.
    - Game development has been so heavily tied to either consoles or Windows.
    - Desktop and game dev sdks have been a mess.

    Linux has turned a corner on the first two. Android/iOS have completely blown the third item out of the water. The fourth one is making progress as well. Valve has had some contribution, but it's been minor and these things would have happened without them.
    Last edited by DanLamb; 04-08-2013 at 03:28 AM.

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    Steam is optional. If you don't like proprietary software, than don't use it. Case closed. Go play console tic-tac-toe instead and stay in your mom's basement.

    Proprietary software is what GNU/Linux needs right now. We need professional a-grade games, video editors etc. Not to mention software companies like Valve are contributing a lot to drivers, tools etc... things that we would not have otherwise. Linux needs a good push in right direction, we wan't it to be 'better', don't we?

    I just don't see how can a hippie in his basement develop a $1,000,000 software project by himself. Unfortunately, some software has to be proprietary to exist. It is fundamentally impossible for it to be free as freedom or even free as free beer.

    Now, from perspective of end user - I want to play PROPRIETARY game, I have these options:
    - Boot into Windows and suffer
    - Run VM and suffer
    - Go with Wine and hope it works semi-decently and suffer
    - Double click in Steam and play and have good time

    I think the latter option is best for everyone. Thank you Valve for your effort to make it possible.
    Last edited by jan1024188; 04-07-2013 at 01:00 PM.

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    Default moronix once again

    Is dumb moronix bad & damaging for Linux? Yes! Only on moronix we can find such childish articles which are really damaging to Linux and Valve. If someone doesn't want steam nobody forces him to install it. It's such simple, but moronix have to scream about some thread like a little baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prescience500
    The only real thing about Valve's efforts that I have a problem with is how close they are to Canonical. They could have chosen a more distro neutral approach, but instead it seems they got in bed with Shuttleworth.
    There is no such thing as a distro-neutral approach. The large majority of potential Linux Steam users are probably people running Ubuntu. I think this is an assessment made in advance to cater to the biggest group. In this context, one could consider Ubuntu to be 'distro-neutral'.

    Furthermore, if it runs on Ubuntu it will probably even run on Gentoo without much hassle.

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    If we start enforcing an open source only policy on linux, we'll be scaring away the very people we are trying to recruit to ourside. Valve is doing the right thing and not all Linux software has to be open source. Just as not all Linux software has to be free. It's an operating system and we should treat it like we would Windows, Mac, DOS, whatever. Developers are free to choose what their software's license is.
    Last edited by Bomyne; 04-07-2013 at 01:29 PM.

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