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    Quote Originally Posted by Calinou View Post
    A GT 640 has DDR3 (lol), to do gaming, you'd need at least a GTX 660.

    "Also $50 is a celeron price range not pentium, if you want to put down low price, pay 25$ more and get a 35W pentium instead, will have similar performance then your $50 55W celeron for lesser electricity bill."

    TDPs? Who reads them today? We're talking about $25 only, not everyone runs their computer 24/7. Just like the "80+ Gold/Platinum will make you save money on the long term" joke.
    If you want to waste your power on heat production (which is what the TPD and the PSU efficiency represent) and cooling it down (which usually involve making noise), that fine with me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sonadow View Post
    The HD2500 core is more than enough to handle any typical non-gaming graphics load in Linux and even Windows, so there's really no need to spend good money going for an i3.

    Plus a gamer would already install a dedicated card by the way. I'm seen people play Crysis and Modern Warfare with a Pentium + GTX 570. CPU bottlenecks the system but game is still perfectly playable.
    I had already mentioned that I suggested Pentium over i3 if had a discrete GPU. Has for the HD2500, knew it was enough on Linux, but since I was considering most user, I had to go with the side I am less sure about it ability to handle it while still offering a good user experience, Windows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenjitamura View Post
    processor: $50, pentium

    motherboard: $50, mini-itx

    Blu-ray: $40, reader

    Case + PSU: $40, m-atx slim or m-itx

    RAM: $25, ~4 GB+

    Wifi: $15, 150 mbps N

    HDD: $45, 500 GB

    Controller: $35, Bio-feedback controller (I have no idea what this would actually cost and this is a very wishful estimate.)

    GPU: $70, Nvidia GFX ~GT 640 or better, Small Form Factor

    Linux OS: $0, =P
    50$ is two core G2020. You really want i5 if you do anything gaming. Thats 150$
    50$ motherboard is garbage pile. You really want solid-cap motherboard - Thats 70$
    BluRay reader 40$. WHY????? DVD+-RW multi. Writer. 40$.
    Case + PSU 40$. Case may cost even 10$. But PSU with 105c Jap Cap @ Silver or Gold costs 90$. Alone. Thats 100$
    Ram 4GiB 40$. Too small. Also, you get 8GiB for 40$.
    Wifi --- why? Its not notebook.
    HDD 45$, 500GB. No - 2x1TiB - 60$x2 = 120$
    GPU: $150.

    Thats mid range good gaming PC, that will not break in first 3 years.

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    It's a nice gesture from Dell of all people, but I'll stick to building my own Computers. I'm pretty sure that people who use Linux seriously, usually do build their own; or at least I do. But this is great to cater to the crowd that doesn't know much about computers and the Windows fanbois that constantly cry about Linux not having any support.

    This is overkill anyway, about the most intensive game for Linux right now is Serious Sam 3, and I can run that on my 6670. By the time anything new comes out, that's intensive, I'm pretty sure this system would be less than optimal. Anyone agree with me, or not?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Frett View Post
    It's a nice gesture from Dell of all people, but I'll stick to building my own Computers. I'm pretty sure that people who use Linux seriously, usually do build their own; or at least I do. But this is great to cater to the crowd that doesn't know much about computers and the Windows fanbois that constantly cry about Linux not having any support.

    This is overkill anyway, about the most intensive game for Linux right now is Serious Sam 3, and I can run that on my 6670. By the time anything new comes out, that's intensive, I'm pretty sure this system would be less than optimal. Anyone agree with me, or not?.
    Actually a GTX 660 is perfect for Serious Sam 3, it let you go with ultra graphic and get a good 75 FPS at 1920x1080 and 60 FPS at 2560x1600, which are usually the target frame rate for more action based game, for thing to stay smooth and fluid, for most other type of game, I admit your fine with 30 FPS. (In good part why my 5670 endure, since mostly play strategy, I wish I had bought a 1024MB model instead of a 512MB, has the memory is mostly what bottleneck my GPU when I try to play the more graphically intensive title)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calinou View Post
    A GT 640 has DDR3 (lol), to do gaming, you'd need at least a GTX 660.

    "Also $50 is a celeron price range not pentium, if you want to put down low price, pay 25$ more and get a 35W pentium instead, will have similar performance then your $50 55W celeron for lesser electricity bill."

    TDPs? Who reads them today? We're talking about $25 only, not everyone runs their computer 24/7. Just like the "80+ Gold/Platinum will make you save money on the long term" joke.
    35W pentium doesn't make lower electricity bill than 55W celeron/pentium.

    PC with Gold PSU has approx. 5 watts lower power consumption than with Bronze PSU.
    AC Input at 64 Watt DC output
    Seasonic Bronze - 81 Watt
    Seasonic Gold - 76 Watt
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1297-page3.html
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article753-page4.html

    In case
    PSU Seasonic S12II 380 Bronze - 53 Euro
    PSU Seasonic G360 Gold - 63 Euro
    1 kWh - 0.2 Euro
    8 hours per day 365 x 8 x 0.2 x 0.005 = 2.92 Euro per year
    12 hours per day 365 x 12 x 0.2 x 0.005 = 4.38 Euro per year
    Gold PSU will save money after 2.28 or 3.42 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by brosis View Post
    50$ is two core G2020. You really want i5 if you do anything gaming. Thats 150$
    50$ motherboard is garbage pile. You really want solid-cap motherboard - Thats 70$
    BluRay reader 40$. WHY????? DVD+-RW multi. Writer. 40$.
    Case + PSU 40$. Case may cost even 10$. But PSU with 105c Jap Cap @ Silver or Gold costs 90$. Alone. Thats 100$
    Ram 4GiB 40$. Too small. Also, you get 8GiB for 40$.
    Wifi --- why? Its not notebook.
    HDD 45$, 500GB. No - 2x1TiB - 60$x2 = 120$
    GPU: $150.

    Thats mid range good gaming PC, that will not break in first 3 years.
    i5 isn't necessary for gaming.
    $10 case will be crap. Non-crappy case costs $80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811352026
    PSU Seasonic G360 Gold costs $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151117

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    Quote Originally Posted by JS987 View Post
    35W pentium doesn't make lower electricity bill than 55W celeron/pentium.

    PC with Gold PSU has approx. 5 watts lower power consumption than with Bronze PSU.
    AC Input at 64 Watt DC output
    Seasonic Bronze - 81 Watt
    Seasonic Gold - 76 Watt
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1297-page3.html
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article753-page4.html

    In case
    PSU Seasonic S12II 380 Bronze - 53 Euro
    PSU Seasonic G360 Gold - 63 Euro
    1 kWh - 0.2 Euro
    8 hours per day 365 x 8 x 0.2 x 0.005 = 2.92 Euro per year
    12 hours per day 365 x 12 x 0.2 x 0.005 = 4.38 Euro per year
    Gold PSU will save money after 2.28 or 3.42 years
    Considering that all computer I ever owned, except that the current main PC at a point in time, were always used for over 6 years, it saving like I said. And TDP is part of energy efficiency, for it is the power dissipation, a low TDP CPU will require lesser power input then a CPU of similar performance with a higher TDP, has less energy is wasted on resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iniudan View Post
    Considering that all computer I ever owned, except that the current main PC at a point in time, were always used for over 6 years, it saving like I said. And TDP is part of energy efficiency, for it is the power dissipation, a low TDP CPU will require lesser power input then a CPU of similar performance with a higher TDP, has less energy is wasted on resistance.
    CPUs with lower TDP don't have lower power consumption

    Total Benchmark Power Consumption (Watt-hours)
    Core i3 2100T - 19.2
    Core i3 2100 - 18.5
    Core i5 2400S - 15.9
    Core i5 2400 - 15.5 (14.5)
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1202-page6.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JS987 View Post
    CPUs with lower TDP don't have lower power consumption

    Total Benchmark Power Consumption (Watt-hours)
    Core i3 2100T - 19.2
    Core i3 2100 - 18.5
    Core i5 2400S - 15.9
    Core i5 2400 - 15.5 (14.5)
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1202-page6.html
    You do know your comparing benchmark power consumption to execute to execute a list of benchmark, which the higher performance CPU will execute faster, thus been under load for a lesser amount of time, thus explaining why they consumed less power. The thing is that most systems are never under heavy load 100% of the time (especially most home and office desktop), thus why there is the nice average power consumption graph right under it, oddly enough the 35W TDP processor is beating everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iniudan View Post
    You do know your comparing benchmark power consumption to execute to execute a list of benchmark, which the higher performance CPU will execute faster, thus been under load for a lesser amount of time, thus explaining why they consumed less power. The thing is that most systems are never under heavy load 100% of the time (especially most home and office desktop), thus why there is the nice average power consumption graph right under it, oddly enough the 35W TDP processor is beating everyone.
    Average power consumption graph is misleading.
    In case of idle there is only 1W difference, video playback 2W difference.
    http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1202-page3.html

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