These tests were done with new systems, no degraded cooling, ... . What I am saying is that a CPU that is marketed as 3.8GHz CPU should be able to sustain that speed with any workload, of course under default conditions (boxed cooler, standard case without blocked airflow, normal room temperatures, ...). If the CPU is not able to do that than there is a problem, either with AMD's labeling or with the dimensioning of AMD's boxed cooler. In both cases the fault lies definitely on AMD's side and can only be fixed by AMD.
Originally Posted by bridgman