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    Default Canonical's Bazaar Still In Stagnant State

    Phoronix: Canonical's Bazaar Still In Stagnant State

    With Canonical allocating its resources elsewhere, the Bazaar revision control system has fallen stagnant...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTMyNzc

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    Default I think mozilla still uses bzr

    They originally picked it because it was more windows friendly than git.

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    If the system is finished and working why any more commits? If it's not broken don't fix it.

    Michael is now officially on anti-Canonical vendetta.

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    When you have Git and Mercurial, Bazaar is simply redundant.

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    Default Not redundant

    Quote Originally Posted by amehaye View Post
    When you have Git and Mercurial, Bazaar is simply redundant.
    Bazaar has some important features:
    - Serverless operation. All you need to make a public repository is an SSH or FTP account. (Hg apparently also has this.)
    - Centralized mode and bound branches. You can still have a centralized repository like in SVN and work in branches on major features, which is actually the most useful model to the vast majority of projects.
    - Commands which are understandable to the average human. Git requires several aliases to approach sensible behavior, encourages partial commits of uncompiled, untested code, and silently commits merges if there are no text conflicts (great recipe for breaking the build). Trying to learn Git commands from the manual is an impossible task. For example, "git push" is describes as "Update remote refs along with associated objects" - what the f*** is this supposed to mean???

    Bazaar is IMO the best tool to use in environments such as scientific programming, where the collaborators are not willing to spend a week learning how to use Git without accidentally destroying their work, and you might have no control over your server.

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    From the main oss projects out there it seems only grub uses bzr. I would prefer when every project would use git.

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    Default Git

    Everyone seem to be all hyped about Git, and it seems everyone is using Git these days.

    Is Git the best revision system ever?
    Or is it just famous because Linus wrote it and Linux use it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tweenk View Post
    Bazaar has some important features:
    - Serverless operation. All you need to make a public repository is an SSH or FTP account. (Hg apparently also has this.)
    Well yeah, every modern source control system supports that. Distributed development is a fairly important feature these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ворот93 View Post
    If the system is finished and working why any more commits? If it's not broken don't fix it.

    Michael is now officially on anti-Canonical vendetta.
    This.

    This article has nothing to do with the any kernel, nothing to do with graphics drivers, mesa, OpenGL, games, audio, networking, filesystems... NONE OF IT.

    The only reason this article exists is because he probably found himself surprised by the fact that Canonical seems to be moving so quickly with Mir as they are, and he even wrote an article about that very thing earlier today, only to finish off the article with saying that it couldn't possibly work anyway for no particular reason. And now, in order to save his face and insist that Canonical never finishes anything, he pulls up a project that is actually complete and needs no further maintenance, and which has really been replaced by Git in most respects anyway, and tries to use that as a justification for his viewpoint.

    It's okay to criticize Canonical, but this isn't critique. This is slander.

    EDIT: And I find it incredibly hypocritical coming from the guy who cried foul for Canonical slandering Wayland. It's one thing to be clueless, it's a completely different thing to be a deliberate hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ishayu View Post
    he pulls up a project that is actually complete and needs no further maintenance
    You must be kidding. I can only repeat the numbers, Bazaar has currently 2081 open bugs, 212 of them are marked as high importance bugs. No maintenance needed? I don't think so.

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