Stuff not mentioned in the changelog:
LOTS of new community hacking.
More paid developers working at systemd on a regular basis.
Intel showing further commitment to systemd by buying sysyemd service provider ProFUSION.
This is SANE software, developed in the OPEN, by a DIVERSE group of TALENTED hackers, supported by HEALTY COMPANIES, working on EQUAL AND FAIR TERMS without contributor licenses derailing freedom. Why wait for a space cowboy to deorbit and serve you crappy CLAed skunkwork?
Very much my thoughts
Originally Posted by funkSTAR
Aren't they the same people that are behind enlightenment? They contribute a lot to it i think. Hope this doesn't change.
Originally Posted by funkSTAR
The only think i hope with 198 is that they fixed the journal size bug.
Have anything to backup your claims? Or perhaps, you're just repeating some unix idiots bullshit? The fact is unix is dead and this is good, because Linux is better.
Originally Posted by duby229
I don't mind systemd, if there is a target market for it that means there is a group of people that feels/think they need this piece of software and they can take profit from it, and that's OK. Personally I don't need CoreOS, neither it will make my life easier. Hence I don't need systemd and it does not suit my needs. Systemd is not about an init manager anymore but as it has been said, it is an effort to reduce fragmentation using a particular software ecosystem, Systemd. That's also OK to me. I don't mind the fragmentation "problem", for me it is not a problem but I understand that for some users it might be a burden and that they can benefit from less fragmentation. I just wonder if we will manage to reconcile both views as far as possible in a practical way.
And by the way, there are a lot of childish statements all around the web about how much some people hate Y software and about how much they love Z software. That's bullshit. Sane people don't mix emotions with compiled source code.
Last edited by zwastik; 03-08-2013 at 09:23 AM.
The most true and sane statement I ever read on Phoronix, I would just add "or licenses" to the last sentence to make it even better.
Originally Posted by zwastik
Code: you cant everybody happy.
Originally Posted by Vim_User
License: Do away with commercial CLA, stay on free licenses. 99% of discussion will go away.
Here is a great chance for you to get what you want; Just say no to drugs and CLA.
By making it less compatible with other Unix's. With init systems you could basically use the same scripts. You can use the init files to launch services on Solaris or FreeBSD.
Originally Posted by Ericg
But on the other hand, who wants to limit themselves to the lowest common denominator, linux has some awesome kernel API's, let's use them.
You couldn't use them on solaris, solaris has their own init manager like systemd.
Originally Posted by WorBlux
And the various *BSD's prob couldn't use the same scripts anyway because of diferences in file location or permissions or any of the other hundred and a half problems you run into when writing sh scripts. And fixing them may or may not be non-trivial since sh scripts are inherently ugly to write and debug. (This coming from an Arch user who HAS had to write, change and debug a few rc scripts)