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Lennart Poettering Takes To Battling Systemd Myths
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Originally posted by Ericg View PostHe said he'd EVENTUALLY remove support for non-systemd. People always forget the "EVENTUALLY." Once people started freaking out he clarified that it was not a short-term goal by any means and would only happen once systemd was THE standard in the linux ecosystem and there WERE no competitors TO support.
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Originally posted by Ericg View PostMajor distros who are using SysV?
Gentoo, Slackware, Debian (Im leaving RHEL + its clones out of this because RHEL7 uses systemd)
Major distros using Upstart?
Ubuntu, (+derivatives, but basically Ubuntu.)
Everyone else? systemd
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Originally posted by balouba View Post...systemd's biggest dep is indeed, dbus....
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"My recommendation for distros who want udev without the rest of systemd
is to build systemd normally and just pick the files you are interested
in from "make install"" -- Lennart Poettering
Arrogant does not begin to describe this attitude.
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This is the dillweed that has been pushing PA down everyones throat. If he pushes out other projects anything like he pushed out pulse then we are all in for some slow ass buggy crap.
I don't think he is smart enough to know the difference between myth and fact.... In his mind if he thinks it then its fact and if you disagree then its myth.... So anything that you disagree with he is going to try and debunk as a myth.
And I don't know why people keep saying that you can build udev by itself.. You can't you have to build the whole thing and then pick out the udev bits.Last edited by duby229; 27 January 2013, 08:51 PM.
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Originally posted by danielbot View PostSounds like the preponderance of "everyone else" is "Red Hat".
So yes.
Gentoo and Debian have OpenRC & sysV respectively.
Ubuntu and its derivatives use Upstart
Everyone else...systemd.All opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostThis is the dillweed that has been pushing PA down everyones throat. If he pushes out other projects anything like he pushed out pulse then we are all in for some slow ass buggy crap.
Also, if someone creates multiple projects which end up being picked up for the default configuration of most bigger distributions because it works better than the alternatives chances are, you're not more intelligent than him.
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Originally posted by danielbot View PostYes, the kernel is bloated. Why do you ask?
Unless youre one of those guys that get angry over KMS in which case...really, get over it. KMS works the best, you get the best performance. The only downside to KMS is graphics drivers can cause a kernel crash. But those stability issues should hopefully be sorted out by the open source nature of the drivers. These aren't closed-source blobs that we can't fix problems with. If there's a crash or problem we CAN fix them.All opinions are my own not those of my employer if you know who they are.
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