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    Phoronix: Compiz Will Not Be Ported To Wayland

    The Compiz window manager is not going to be ported to Wayland. The lead Compiz developer also sees no reason to continue the compositing window manager's development beyond maintenance purposes...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI2ODU

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    So if Compiz is out on account of fragmentation, that just leaves KWin, Mutter, Metacity, Xfwm, Openbox, Enlightenment, and a variety of much smaller projects. And those are just the tiling WMs!

    I definite get the perspective of the fragmentation being bad. Having the QT / GTK split between KWin and Mutter seems inevitable, but I hope that the non-platform centric WMs can converge around Openbox, it seems to have the most traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanny View Post
    So if Compiz is out on account of fragmentation, that just leaves KWin, Mutter, Metacity, Xfwm, Openbox, Enlightenment, and a variety of much smaller projects.
    Metacity is no longer actively developed, since Mutter is now the successor version of Metacity (Mutter = Metacity + Clutter).

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    Compiz is not yet another compositing manager as he claims.
    As far as I understand, Compiz is the only compositing manager that can be extended/modified with plugins.

    Also, without Compiz, how is Unity supposed to run on Wayland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Compiz is not yet another compositing manager as he claims.
    As far as I understand, Compiz is the only compositing manager that can be extended/modified with plugins.

    Also, without Compiz, how is Unity supposed to run on Wayland?
    I guess they could switch to Mutter?
    It's in a much better state than it was 2 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidSteel144 View Post
    I guess they could switch to Mutter?
    It's in a much better state than it was 2 years ago.
    How about some canonical-fused waylandish in-house skunkwork whizbang built from CA desires under heavy infuence of a varity of drugs? Add a shell built on Qt and a bit more spyware. Then you got yourself a nice pot luck of all the shit, FUD, closedness and greed which made Apple and Microsoft so great. That seems more fun to Mr Shuttleworth than going with anything smelling of openness which cant be corrupted or closed down.

    I really do hope Canonical does this, it makes it so much easier to avoid this neo-fucktard storm-of-shitness hitting Linux these days..
    Last edited by funkSTAR; 01-07-2013 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolidSteel144 View Post
    I guess they could switch to Mutter?
    It's in a much better state than it was 2 years ago.
    Yeah, in hindsight, moving away from Mutter was a bad call for Ubuntu. True, Mutter wasn't performing well at the time, but it wasn't long before the Gnome devs addressed most of those problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Compiz is not yet another compositing manager as he claims.
    As far as I understand, Compiz is the only compositing manager that can be extended/modified with plugins.
    No, most window managers are extensible with plugins. AFAIK both KWin and Mutter support plugins. Gnome Shell was initially implemented as a Mutter plugin. Nowadays any Gnome Shell extension can modify the window management completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanny View Post
    So if Compiz is out on account of fragmentation, that just leaves KWin, Mutter, Metacity, Xfwm, Openbox, Enlightenment, and a variety of much smaller projects. And those are just the tiling WMs!

    I definite get the perspective of the fragmentation being bad. Having the QT / GTK split between KWin and Mutter seems inevitable, but I hope that the non-platform centric WMs can converge around Openbox, it seems to have the most traction.
    Before posting such dumb comments, read the actual blog post first: He's not talking about X11 window managers. He talks about Wayland which currently has only one and that's Weston.

    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Also, without Compiz, how is Unity supposed to run on Wayland?
    Also for you: Read the blog post before asking stupid questions. But I am a nice person and answer that anyway: By porting Unity to Weston and if all those Phoronix stories about Ubuntu and Wayland are any indication, that's exactly what Canonical is doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by SolidSteel144 View Post
    I guess they could switch to Mutter?
    Why would they switch to Mutter? Mutter does not even work under Wayland. Currently only Weston does!

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    I believe there are several compositors that are work in progress. Even very experimental stuff like that one that was even featured on phoronix a while ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs

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