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Canonical "Won't Fix" GTK+ Wayland For Ubuntu
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Originally posted by nerdopolis View PostNot even that, we're talking about a few hundred kilobytes here. They don't need weston as a depend, they only need the wayland libraries to satisfy the wayland library dependancies in GTK!
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Originally posted by Ibidem View PostThey still would need to add wayland to main, put it on the CD, and make it mandatory for anyone who plans to use anything related to Gtk.
And you don't need a wayland display server, you just need the core wayland libraries. I guess the issue with the GTK backends is that it's not truly modular, and it needs to load the dependancies for all compiled in backends at run time, instead of just loading the specified backend like QT...
...but the dependancies really are not that much.
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I don't see any problem with the decision at this time. Wayland is not mature or ready for general consumption in any way, so why should they ship GTK with Wayland support? The very few users that like to experiment with Wayland just need to compile/install a Wayland-capable build of GTK. No big deal.
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Originally posted by mark45 View PostReason - I don't do cross platform, I do Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is about Gtk. Qt for Ubuntu is an afterthought, especially after they declared Kubuntu a community project, it was never as polished as Ubuntu anyway.
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Originally posted by Linuxhippy View PostSure they don't contribute to some projects in the open - they prefer to modify stuff in their own forks to avoid other benefiting from their enhancements.
Ubutnu/Canonical 'prefer' there own forked code because (in many cases) there patches would most likely be rejected by their corresponding upstream (developers) anyway. Ubuntu's patches often aren't useful (from the developers perspective) and/or don't fit into the upstream project's goals. ie: why would gnome want to add ubuntu's patches to gnome-system-settings? (that are only useful for Unity), or why would gnome want to add ubuntu's gtk2/3 patches for overlay scrollbars? (which for me anyway, would be a feature i would NOT want).
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Originally posted by nerdopolis View PostI guess the issue with the GTK backends is that it's not truly modular, and it needs to load the dependancies for all compiled in backends at run time, instead of just loading the specified backend like QT...
...but the dependancies really are not that much.
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Originally posted by YAFU View PostIt was my understanding that Canonical had plans to develop Unity on Qt. Then they decided to continue with gtk. I think they should have opted for Qt. As some people said, Unity-2D in Qt worked very well.
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