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    Default The Future Of Fedora Gets Debated, Again

    Phoronix: The Future Of Fedora Gets Debated, Again

    Being hotly discussed this weekend within the Fedora development camp is in regards to the future direction of the Linux distribution...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI0Njg

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    Wow, even Fedora developers have finally realized people need something stable and supported for a long time.

    Alas, LTS distros are also unusable given the current Linux development model.

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    "Radej has witnessed that most of the Fedora mailing list discussions end up degrading into scolding and personal insults rather than accepting constructive criticism"

    quelle suprise


    This is how you fix fedora:

    - the rpmfusion repos are integrated in the normal repos

    - make a fedora software center a la ubuntu

    - make yearly releases, one a year, and support those releases for one extra year. fedora 2013 will be supported for 2013 and 2014 even if there's a fedora 2014 already.

    - adopt the most popular gnome extensions and theme it so it looks good.




    there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallidus View Post
    This is how you fix fedora:

    - the rpmfusion repos are integrated in the normal repos

    - make a fedora software center a la ubuntu

    - make yearly releases, one a year, and support those releases for one extra year. fedora 2013 will be supported for 2013 and 2014 even if there's a fedora 2014 already.

    - adopt the most popular gnome extensions and theme it so it looks good.
    rpmfusion - never (DMCA and shit)
    software center - what for when there's PackageKit
    make sense, but release every second year - support for at least three years
    no comments - I don't use Gnome

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    I'm using Fedora 18 Nightly Build and Fedora has very obsolete packages (example: fotoxx, xboard, lazarus). I have contacte the maintainers, but they didn't do anything.


    eduardojorge

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardojorge View Post
    I'm using Fedora 18 Nightly Build and Fedora has very obsolete packages (example: fotoxx, xboard, lazarus). I have contacte the maintainers, but they didn't do anything.


    eduardojorge
    I wonder how many people have gone through the hassle of following the procedures outlined here: Fedora's policy for nonresponsive package maintainers - it's inhuman and looks more like an insult, than something you can and will want to do. In short - Fedora's developers do not give a fuck about their own distro.

    The sad fact of life is that there are hundreds of unmaintained packages in Fedora.
    Last edited by birdie; 12-09-2012 at 09:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eduardojorge View Post
    I'm using Fedora 18 Nightly Build and Fedora has very obsolete packages (example: fotoxx, xboard, lazarus). I have contacte the maintainers, but they didn't do anything.
    Same story with gtick and docky:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808611
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808747

    It is very sad actually, since even Debian now has these packages updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdie View Post
    rpmfusion - never (DMCA and shit)
    software center - what for when there's PackageKit
    make sense, but release every second year - support for at least three years
    no comments - I don't use Gnome
    Gnome-packagekit is just awful in its current state. You can't find anything unless you know the name of the package you are looking for, and in that case you'd just use YUM anyway. The advantage of the ubuntu software center is discoverability, ratings, and user reviews.

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    i've got a solution to the http://tmrepository.com/trademarks/b...ceddeathmarch/.
    it's called bundles and chakra uses it. why can't all the other mainstream distros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdie View Post
    Wow, even Fedora developers have finally realized people need something stable and supported for a long time.
    That's what RHEL and CentOS are for. Fedora needs to become a rolling-release distro, focusing on the Rawhide branch and GNOME development. They put too much time/energy into trying to get a perfect snapshot/release of something inherently chaotic (the bleeding edge of Linux).

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