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    Default Richard Stallman Calls Ubuntu "Spyware"

    Phoronix: Richard Stallman Calls Ubuntu "Spyware"

    In a post to the Free Software Foundation's web-site, Richard Stallman has called out Ubuntu as being "spyware" due to the Amazon search capabilities that have been integrated into Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment with the Dash...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTI0NTY

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    Mein Reden...

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    gentoo is not recommended because it makes it possible to install non-free software. FSF just hates user-choice. Why not go one step further? Ban the english language because it makes it easy to talk about non-free software.

    Btw, Mr Stallmann, I am sure your words of wisdom were transported via routers and switches that run nonfree software - shouldn't you disconnect from the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by energyman View Post
    Btw, Mr Stallmann, I am sure your words of wisdom were transported via routers and switches that run nonfree software - shouldn't you disconnect from the internet?
    The guy doesn't even use a web browser on his computer.

    http://lwn.net/Articles/262570/

    For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer.

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    Stallman's views are questionable at times, but that doesn't change the fact that he's right in calling Ubuntu Spyware.

    After all spyware is

    software installed via the internet on a computer without the user's knowledge and used to send information about the user to another computer.
    The first half of that definition might a point of contention, but overall it does accurately describe what Ubuntu does, does it not?

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    Jono's site is down. Clearly the FUDing supporters of the FSF must be DDOSing him.

    Google cache link: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...d=ivns&strip=1


    Regardless of RMS's stance, it is quite sad that Jono wants this privacy violation to be excused in the name of creating beautiful user interfaces and bringing free software to the masses.

    He did not try to defend it - he said it should be accepted to advance these two greater goals. As if it's somehow good for either of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanjo View Post
    The guy doesn't even use a web browser on his computer.

    http://lwn.net/Articles/262570/
    If you'd take the time to read his website instead of parroting this everytime he comes up, he does use a web browser when he can't just open it up with emacs and see the document clearly. He doesn't have an internet connection a vast majority of the time and has a system in use where he can queue documents and e-mails to be downloaded when he has the chance. Please don't devolve the debate into unnecessary character assasination because of this and other quirks.

    I believe Richard is correct in calling it 'spyware' as of right now, much like how Google Chrome is spyware. They can say the data is anonymized and 'scrubbed', but as we learned with the AOL search data blunder it's very hard to anonymize and scrub datasets like this. A good middle ground is to include in the installer a description of what it does and the ability to not install it, although this certainly wouldn't excuse it in the eyes of rms I could accept that as a good compromise in Unity.

    Perhaps they should start fixing the problem of Unity being slow as a dog on anything but 'good' hardware and not removing things like unity 2d before they make even more people upset by shoving Amazon search results in their main lens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pairofslacks View Post
    Please don't devolve the debate into unnecessary character assasination because of this and other quirks.
    I don't have to, he does that on his own.

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    11 pages of rants and stupidity....

    this thread needs to close and this will be the last post:

    Stallman has absolutely no right to degrade canonical or tell people what to do or what to think.

    When he himself knows that his words will be posted all over popular tech and science sites like ars and the like... he knows just how damaging his statements can be and WTF does he hope to accomplish with them?


    " hey folks ubuntu is spyware so use windows or os x instead ... "

    that's he ubuntu audience people who want to switch over from their proprietary os and need a easy to use linux distro.

    So he managed to damage the cause he so eagerly claims to defend.

    If you aren't willing to compromise then you can't really use the internet... hey you think that ad up there in the right corner is not keeping a cookie and tracking you? many times I see ads in my own native language so zOMGS they have access to my IP OMGOMGOMG phoronix is spyware...

    :/

    THEY HAVE A BIG SHINY BUTTON RIGHT ON THE SYSTEM CONTROL PANEL CALLED 'PRIVACY' IT TAKES 5 SECS TO CLICK IT AND SHUT IT OFF.

    http://youtu.be/_g3sLYNmqtM?t=42s
    http://youtu.be/_g3sLYNmqtM?t=42s


    of all the things I found to complain about ubuntu 13.04 THIS BARELY REGISTERS.

    you can blame canonical for this as much as you can blame phoronix for showing ads so the mere fact you are posting here makes you an hypocrite

    thus spake pallidus

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