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    I read most of it, yet I still feel I'd need more info to come to any real conclusion.

    The stuff the prosecution is doing with the son really does sound fishy when you put it that way.

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    I've read most of it too. Although I didn't understand all of it since English isn't my native language, I believe I've understood enough.

    As far as I understand his son is just 9 years old, and he was even younger when all that happened. I wouldn't put to much into words of children being that young. Besides that, the more time passes, the less he will remenber what happened really but get more and even more easily suggestible to what other people will tell him. So, either believe what he said as the beginning or forget it.

    There are things I dont really understand.. why is he treated like a murderer even though there are still no *real* proofes he did it?
    Seriously I wouldn't be even surprised if the women would suddenly show up. Though it wouldn't explain why should would disappear like that. I just hope anybody will find proofs what happened.

    Personally I dont want to believe he did it. It wouldn't be worth it. Nobody can be such naive to believe he can kill somebody without anybody noticing it, especially not somebody who seems to be quite intelligent.
    Last edited by mcgreg; 02-10-2008 at 08:41 PM.

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    Proof? If there was proof this would already be over since the beginning. What they do have is arguably strong evidence. The blood, the books about murder investigations he had, and other circumstantial evidence like his estranged relationship with her. That's obviously not proof, but this is where the prosecution gets it's strength.

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    The whole case is filled with dark spots, incosistent information and begs for more, clear and true information.

    For example, ReiserFS's refusal to adoption has nothing for this case. Yes, the mailing lists about the issues somehow used to show "Hans" as a violent person but again the whole post array (about the timeline) smells fishy and looks like a disinformation package which tries to show Hans as the murder.

    (How he can put Nina in a freezer which is middle of the house without children seeing and if freezer is not in the middle of stg, how children ask Hans why the freezer is ringing? Tell me.)

    I'm no way defending Hans or Nina here but if you overload a person like that it'll probably explode in a destructive manner. The whole story reads like:
    "Hans Reiser was a good mannered guy who loved a girl who stabbed him from back, stabbed so badly that he gone mad but we don't know what happened after."

    So the result: I don't believe Hans has killed Nina.

    As a "human" and "hardcore linux porgrammer", I personally am bored from "Your lovely programmer Hans is a violent killer" meme.

    Edit: Clarification added.
    Last edited by Silent Storm; 02-11-2008 at 05:12 AM.

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    Their are some Collections of Press Reports:

    sfgate.com Blog Reports on the Hans Reiser Trial (from 2007-11-05 to 2008-02-10) at:

    http://linux.50webs.org/politics/press-sfgate-blog.htm
    http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/p...fgate-blog.htm

    sfgate.com Reports on the Hans Reiser Trial (from 2006-09-12 to 2008-02-10) at:

    http://linux.50webs.org/politics/press-sfgate.htm
    http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/press-sfgate.htm

    blog.wired.com Reports on the Hans Reiser Trial (from 2007-11-05 to 2008-02-10) at:

    http://linux.50webs.org/politics/press-wired-blog.htm
    http://linuxhelp.150m.com/politics/press-wired-blog.htm

    For example, the sfgate.com Blog collection contains the articles:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=24157
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=24077
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=24048
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23960
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23881
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23844
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23811
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23780
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23672
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23640
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23535
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23502
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23455
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=23420
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22833
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22814
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22785
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22698
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22670
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22632
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22600
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22518
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22486
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22453
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22427
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22332
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22301
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22267
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=22256
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=21972
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=21930
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=21901
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=21774
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=21742
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=21713
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=21674

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    StringCheesian said: "The stuff the prosecution is doing with the son really does sound fishy when you put it that way."

    Ain't that the truth.

    mcgreg said: "There are things I dont really understand.. why is he treated like a murderer even though there are still no *real* proofs he did it?"

    I reckon it is a "stitch up."

    Silent Storm said: "For example, ReiserFS's refusal to adoption has nothing for this case."

    I am NOT so sure about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Storm View Post
    The whole case is filled with dark spots, inconsistent information and begs for more, clear and true information.
    Which particular bits did you find inconsistent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silent Storm View Post
    (How he can put Nina in a freezer which is middle of the house without children seeing and if freezer is not in the middle of stg, how children ask Hans why the freezer is ringing? Tell me.)
    This comment is meant as sarcasm. To point out how ridiculous the situation is. To point out that Hans must be innocent. There is no time for him to kill Nina and dispose of the body. The prosecution truly has no case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade View Post
    This comment is meant as sarcasm. To point out how ridiculous the situation is. To point out that Hans must be innocent. There is no time for him to kill Nina and dispose of the body. The prosecution truly has no case.
    On top of that they have no body or weapon only some blood which is probably old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Compxpert View Post
    On top of that they have no body or weapon only some blood which is probably old.
    Yesterday, on the first day of the Hans Reiser trial, Deputy DA Paul Hora had told the jury that he must prove at least two things to them beyond reasonable doubt. They are (1) Nina Reiser is dead; and (2) Hans Reiser killed her.

    Any chance of proving these two things, beyond reasonable doubt?

    Absolutely, no chance.

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