When you think about the "first" attempt of a steam client it is more likely that every data is hold in your home. That means that what U will get is just an icon and a small download tool - which could be easyly be a script - i wrote my own script a few years ago to do that. Steam usually verifies/updates the client on start so i do not think they will ask for a root pw every time there is an update.
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Originally posted by johnc View PostIt seems like it would be pretty trivial to convert a .deb to another distro format.
Originally posted by blackout23 View PostDo you know any programs with distro lock? I don't. Most of the stuff I install from Arch User Repositorys comes in *.debs. Still no problem.
The real reason this is not done is - in the same legacy of the proprietary UNIXes - to lock users into one "platform" in order to create artificial dependency on the distro's parent company. I don't want to see the same lockin that the UNIXes went through become commonplace in the Linux community. Even worse is when ignoramouses and shills endorse the idea, muddying the waters and confusing the real issues.
Originally posted by Naib View PostThere is none
This is the problem at the moment and it comes from quite a few years of FUD, FUD like "too many distro's you can't get it working for all" or "linux is not stable [from a lib point of view]""
WRONG
#1 Too many distro
Not really, the VAST majority are derivatives...
#2 Linux is not stable (from a library point of view)
Again bullshit!!! its alot more binary ABI stable that windows is.
So, ignoring that part...
#1: I don't care how many "distros" there are. It's great that there are bundles of software to get someone up and going quickly. There needs to be. You can't tell someone to go download 1,000 different programs before they have a functional OS, that would be stupid. The problem is with distro corporations and the lack of cross-distro installation standards, as stated above.
#2: Never said that, you're right, Linux has a stable ABI. Again, you're the one who doesn't understand what I'm talking about. The problem is with packaging formats not being good enough and capable of getting any binary installed properly, i.e. a lack of installation and packaging standards. This is really really easy to see, and you have to be living under a rock or compiling everything from source not to see the problems that everyone who doesn't want to run around the net chasing dependencies faces (even if you're compiling everything from source, you still face dependency hell though). Most Linux software projects don't even offer a simple binary for download because of the lack of cross-distro installer standards, and this hurts the community. Even when they do offer a simple binary tarred/zipped/compressed that you should be able to run, try actually running them sometime. You'll find that most of them fail due to missing libraries. This is proof of at least two huge problems:
1. The lack of standards which exists with Linux right now as far as expected installed libraries.
2. The lack of packaging standards, for if these existed it would be in package form, and would automatically call for the dependencies.
Again, if you haven't faced any of these problems before, I don't know what to tell you other than you apparently have been only living inside the restricted walled garden of your distro's repository and have not actually tried to download and run many binaries from projects which haven't been blessed to live inside your walled garden.
Originally posted by blackout23 View PostIf it wasn't for Ubuntu being backed by a real company and aiming at providing a user-friendly linux experience there would not be any news about Steam coming to linux at all. And I don't even use Ubuntu anymore.
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Originally posted by blackout23 View PostIf it wasn't for Ubuntu being backed by a real company and aiming at providing a user-friendly linux experience there would not be
any news about Steam coming to linux at all. And I don't even use Ubuntu anymore.
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http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00468 =) first on google
Mint toped distrowatch with Mageia in second.
Mint didn't build it's base out of thin air.
Edit: I forgot to insult you.
How you're trying to come across as pretentious without a period in a four word sentence/statement is beyond me. Please feel free to prove me wrong that users aren't fleeing to Mint/Mageia/Fedora/Arch/Gentoo faster than Ubuntu can replenish.Last edited by nightmarex; 03 September 2012, 10:04 PM.
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Originally posted by nightmarex View Posthttp://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00468 =) first on google
Mint toped distrowatch with Mageia in second.
Mint didn't build it's base out of thin air.
Originally posted by nightmarex View PostPlease feel free to prove me wrong that users aren't fleeing to Mint/Mageia/Fedora/Arch/Gentoo faster than Ubuntu can replenish.
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nice read
india at %160 percent, cool
no doubt ubuntu is growing, and its obvious linux as a whole is a bit, although its still only ~%2 of the world
febuary seems good, as long as it releases before windows8 gets traction, by simply plastering the ubuntu logo onto a new valve game advertizement, us linux people can get quite a steal on next years operating system decisions
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