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    Default Microsoft in Win8 spies every app you install by default

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    Windows 8 has a new featured called Windows SmartScreen, which is turned on by default. Windows SmartScreen’s purpose is to “screen” every single application you try to install from the Internet in order to inform you whether it’s safe to proceed with installing it or not. Here’s how SmartScreen works:

    You download any application from the Internet. Say, the Tor Browser Bundle.

    You open the installer. Windows SmartScreen gathers some identifying information about your application, and sends the data to Microsoft.

    If Microsoft replies saying that the application is not signed with a proper certificate, the user gets an error that looks something like this.

    There are a few serious problems here. The big problem is that Windows 8 is configured to immediately tell Microsoft about every app you download and install.
    How about some coverage, eh Michael?

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    Quote Originally Posted by curaga View Post
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    How about some coverage, eh Michael?
    There is a little too much paranoia about this. One is presented an option to opt out if they wish (which like anything else, personally, I feel should be made opt in). The intent of this is to stop people from downloading applications that may do some harm to their system. This is not really any different then openDNS warning you about sites that have been reported as malicious. Heck even some linux distributions install other data gathering applications like smolt by default or default to google as a search engine.

    It's making a mountain out of a molehill.

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    Nope, it's in no way comparable to the Debian or Fedora surveys, because those are opt-in.

    It is comparable to Chrome, whose snooping is opt-out too, that is, both of them spy on you by default.


    But this is MS we're talking about. What is to say that all the "disable SmartScreen" toggle does it enable encryption for those transmissions?

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    That is, the goal of Microsoft here is very likely to gain full info on every app you install. The fact that it also allows for server-side malware checks is just a convenient cherry on top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curaga View Post
    That is, the goal of Microsoft here is very likely to gain full info on every app you install. The fact that it also allows for server-side malware checks is just a convenient cherry on top.
    OK what ever you say Henny Penny.

    Proof to back up your statements or you are completely spreading 100% FUD.

    BTW, if they had a sinister plan they could go through one of the many mechanisms that they have had in place for years such as error reporting and system updates. They have no need to devise another way to get that data.
    Last edited by deanjo; 08-26-2012 at 06:14 PM.

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    Then explain why they need any of the data such as app name. For malware checks all they need is a hash of the executable.

    And even that should be done locally, against local databases. Whoops, they do, it's called Windows Defender, with automatically updated databases. Then what excuse could they have for server side checks, assuming they had done it properly and sent only the hash?

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