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    Thumbs up Kde! Kde! Kde!

    Great, I'll be trying it out soon. It sounds like the bugs won't even effect me. I haven't minimized a window in years. Why click twice? I don't have forward and back buttons on my mouse either. It is one of those rare left handed mice. Works great.

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    I just updated to 4.9 (it hit the Gentoo Linux repo yesterday.) KWin is a bit of a disaster :-| Too much lag. Moving a window around means the mouse cursor moves first, and only later does the window catch up to where you moved the mouse. Disabling VSync doesn't help (both in System Settings as well as in NVidia Settings.) It was perfectly fast and snappy in 4.8. My theory of KDE accumulating more and more bugs turns out to be true, at here here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealNC View Post
    I just updated to 4.9 (it hit the Gentoo Linux repo yesterday.) KWin is a bit of a disaster :-| Too much lag. Moving a window around means the mouse cursor moves first, and only later does the window catch up to where you moved the mouse. Disabling VSync doesn't help (both in System Settings as well as in NVidia Settings.) It was perfectly fast and snappy in 4.8. My theory of KDE accumulating more and more bugs turns out to be true, at here here.
    I have the opposite. I use a HD 6550M mostly in low/mid power mode and up to 4.8 it had that behaviour with OpenGL effects so I had to use the xrender compositing. But now with 4.9 the OpenGL effects are very smooth. It even seems to work fastly with the OpenGL 2 shaders activated. I'm using the raster graphics system by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealNC View Post
    KWin is a bit of a disaster :-| Too much lag. Moving a window around means the mouse cursor moves first, and only later does the window catch up to where you moved the mouse.
    This is a bug in Aurorae which got spotted last weekend, while the patch is already finished it was too late for 4.9.0. Switching to any non Aurorae theme will fix this issue.

    I just want to point out that the regression was introduced in January or February. It seems to be very easy to spot when you use this functionality. Anybody complaining about this being in the release should ask himself why he did not spend some time to test the betas and release candidates. With the Project Neon KVM image that's easy enough to do.

    Now before someone asks: no I don't move windows through the titlebar. I use the window content area or alt+lmb, so no I did not spot this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealNC View Post
    And none of the bugs fixed, probably. And new bugs introduced. Most stuff in KDE has been on a downwards slope the last year.
    Let's hope 4.9 is an exception. KDE has more bugs than MS-DOS, Windows 95 and Windows Me put together. Amarok and Phonon have even gotten to a point where it's not possible to play your music anymore.
    So, you don't know yet and you comment? Except it's usable unlike dos and windoze. Amarok and Phonon works great, but I'm using Kubuntu where packages aren't upgraded when just new release arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealNC View Post
    KWin is very slow and choppy with low power GPU modes (50Mhz graphics / 135Mhz mem / 101Mhz proc). So I have to force a higher performance level.
    This is a graphic driver problem. It occurs with Open Source radeon drivers and power profile method. With fglrx it works fine.

    Icons "jump" around when hovering the mouse over them (Desktop as well as in Dolphin). Doesn't always happen. Whether it happens or not seems to be fixed at login time.
    That's something new.

    KDM stopped remembering the user name of the last logged in user after 4.6.
    This works fine and was never broken for me. I recommend to try some not rolling distros sometimes, because they make additional fixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RealNC View Post
    KDM stopped remembering the user name of the last logged in user after 4.6.
    Have you checked your options on the last page of login manager settings? There's option for changing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    Many thanks go to TheBlackCat who, if I understand correctly, did a huge part of the job, offering the packages for openSUSE! (Currently still RC2 but that one works great here.)
    Thanks. Unfortunately obs is having some problems right now, but the x86_64 packages for openSUSE 12.1 at least should be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markg85 View Post
    Nearly. Rick Stockton is working on this and it's aimed for Qt 5.1 IF he gets it done. Might even be 5.2. And yes, it is a Qt limitation. Qt - as it stands right now - only allows shortcuts to be set based on keyboard keys. So CTRL + Mouse click is not possible yet.
    What does Ctrl+Click have to do with Back and Forward in Dolphin, etc. which is only a single click on Mouse4/Mouse5? IIRC Qt 4.x uses a really weird data format for mouse buttons which limits it to 3 buttons but according to http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/10970 the fix to support up to 31 mouse buttons was committed to Qt 5 last November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgraesslin View Post
    This is a bug in Aurorae which got spotted last weekend, while the patch is already finished it was too late for 4.9.0. Switching to any non Aurorae theme will fix this issue.
    I just tried different ones, but it doesn't help.

    Now before someone asks: no I don't move windows through the titlebar. I use the window content area or alt+lmb, so no I did not spot this issue.
    Just tested that. This has the exact same issue here. Alt + grabbing and moving in the middle of a window shows the same lag.

    I'm using the 302.17 NVidia drivers on a GTX 560Ti, btw.

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