Tryst: The Forthcoming Unigine RTS Will Be On Linux

[Drago]

I still don't get it... Why Unigine doesn't release Unigine SDK with similar license to UDK, Unity3D or Cry Engine. It would be huge boost in linux gaming world which would translate to cash flow for Unigine :/ On the Windows/OSX market they can't compete.

Is there any problem, FOSS games that need quality engine to use IDTech4? It is open-source and ready for modifications.

[gutigen]

Is there any problem, FOSS games that need quality engine to use IDTech4? It is open-source and ready for modifications.

Yea, I wonder why no one is using it (except propably canceled Prey 2 ofc) :P Linux needs easy to use and powerfull SDK, like UDK. Unigine could be that. But who cares, Unity3D is coming to linux, Source Engine is coming to linux, so Unigine will stay in niche anyway.

[del_diablo]

FLOSS don't need engines, it needs actual game editors.


As for 1c3d0g? He properly read right. If there is only "quality" on the preview pages for games that used the editor and made games with the engine, its easier to persuade users to buy the software for their corporation. On the other hand, a preview SDK would enable some hefty games, which could be quite nice, but it won't add anything in the short term for the corporation behind the SDK.

[gutigen]

As for 1c3d0g? He properly read right. If there is only "quality" on the preview pages for games that used the editor and made games with the engine, its easier to persuade users to buy the software for their corporation. On the other hand, a preview SDK would enable some hefty games, which could be quite nice, but it won't add anything in the short term for the corporation behind the SDK.

Tell that to Epic Games

Also look at udk.com, while there are tons of indie games out there at indiedb or moddb or over the net, epic games choose just some best looking for their showcase. I think that Unigine guys can control their website and make a preview pages with only quality titles trolololo

Oh and btw, did you know that Counter Strike, Team Fortress and Portal were just mods? How is that possible? Because Valve released their SDK to the public and then hired indie developers to work for them. The worst thing about this is that Unigine claims to support linux while they are doing exactly nothing to promote gaming on linux, cool.

[curaga]

Re games using Tech4, I read somewhere that motorsep (the kot-in-action guy) was considering it.

[allquixotic]

Plenty of good FOSS and closed source engines out there. We need "developers, developers, developers" who are willing to develop games for Linux, and we need content creators. Scores of them.

I don't even care if the content creators want to use Windows or Mac tools to create the content. Whatever. As long as it runs on a native Linux engine. Just get it done.

Linux as a gaming platform is going to have to evolve, it won't become huge overnight.

Step 1: "A" games. Good quality games with low popularity and not extremely innovative. Winterwolves, HIB, etc. Primarily indie. Development teams numbering less than 10 people total including management, coders, content creators and testers.
Step 2: "AA" games. Older games ported, or less popular games from corporate studios. Quake series, Doom series, enemy territory, Oil Rush, Heroes of Newerth, Savage 2, etc. Development/content teams numbering on the order of 10 developers and 10 content creators. 4 or 5 testers. Ideally the game should have a sustaining interest; multiplayer helps.
Step 3: "AAA" games. Evil greedy studios selling for $50 - $70 per license. Development/content teams numbering in the hundreds. 50 internal testers on the payroll. Budget rivaling Hollywood studios. Top of the line. You get the picture.

Right now we're firmly achieving Step 2, with glimpses of Step 3 thanks to Valve. But we're still a pretty long way away from seeing Mass Effect 4 appear natively for Ubuntu and Fedora.

[KameZero]

Plenty of good FOSS and closed source engines out there. We need "developers, developers, developers" who are willing to develop games for Linux, and we need content creators. Scores of them.

I don't even care if the content creators want to use Windows or Mac tools to create the content. Whatever. As long as it runs on a native Linux engine. Just get it done.

Linux as a gaming platform is going to have to evolve, it won't become huge overnight.

Step 1: "A" games. Good quality games with low popularity and not extremely innovative. Winterwolves, HIB, etc. Primarily indie. Development teams numbering less than 10 people total including management, coders, content creators and testers.
Step 2: "AA" games. Older games ported, or less popular games from corporate studios. Quake series, Doom series, enemy territory, Oil Rush, Heroes of Newerth, Savage 2, etc. Development/content teams numbering on the order of 10 developers and 10 content creators. 4 or 5 testers. Ideally the game should have a sustaining interest; multiplayer helps.
Step 3: "AAA" games. Evil greedy studios selling for $50 - $70 per license. Development/content teams numbering in the hundreds. 50 internal testers on the payroll. Budget rivaling Hollywood studios. Top of the line. You get the picture.

Right now we're firmly achieving Step 2, with glimpses of Step 3 thanks to Valve. But we're still a pretty long way away from seeing Mass Effect 4 appear natively for Ubuntu and Fedora.

? Indie's aren't/can't be innovative? Or popular?

[allquixotic]

? Indie's aren't/can't be innovative? Or popular?

Not in the ways the big studios mean "innovative" or "popular".

"innovative": don't change a single thing except improve graphics and remove complexity / "streamline" the game between releases

"popular": people lining up at 6am at Gamestop to wait to get their copy when it goes on sale at midnight. millions sold

Indie innovative is something completely different and off the wall that 99% of the people won't like, and the lack of popularity follows naturally from there.

Not saying indie games are bad, just that the definitions of innovative and popular change as you shift your focus from tens of thousands of users to millions or possibly billions.

[prophet5]

Re games using Tech4, I read somewhere that motorsep (the kot-in-action guy) was considering it.

What ever happened to that Linux Game competition Unigine did? Kot-in-action won a license. What's happening there?

[Kakarott]

What ever happened to that Linux Game competition Unigine did? Kot-in-action won a license. What's happening there?

Short: Nothing.

Long:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/106298597552189943500/posts/7HiHbgywBQx

https://plus.google.com/u/0/116768004614082942458/posts/ecQWormniMq

Also Unigine said something about an mod-sdk for Oil Rush.
It was mentioned on their pages. Now everything is gone:

https://store.unigine.com/products/goods/oilrush/

http://oilrush-game.com/

Lonely thread with no news:

http://oilrush-game.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1825-where-is-the-modmap-sdk/page__view__findpost__p__6066

Maybe in some distant future ?