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Thread: Fedora Discussion: "ARM Is A Dead End"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldesnogu View Post
    @smitty3268: Isn't the desktop already dying on the consumer market?
    No. Perhaps it's slowing down slightly, but it's not dying. It's just now a mature market while the hot new thing everyone is talking about (mobile) is growing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    why ARM? technically the loongson is much better because MIBS-64 BIT and a 256bit Vector-SIMD unit compatible to the ARM Vector-SIMD unit.

    loongson is were ARM try to be in 2014.

    why not just drop ARM and go loongson instead?
    Interesting point.

    I wonder ARM compares against MIPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    why ARM? technically the loongson is much better because MIBS-64 BIT and a 256bit Vector-SIMD unit compatible to the ARM Vector-SIMD unit.

    loongson is were ARM try to be in 2014.

    why not just drop ARM and go loongson instead?
    That 256-bit wide SIMD unit is for their server chip, a thing that consumes 40W. No wonder they have no chance against ARM

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldesnogu View Post
    That 256-bit wide SIMD unit is for their server chip, a thing that consumes 40W. No wonder they have no chance against ARM
    you don't get the point you get 128 GFLOPS double-precision or 256 GFLOPS single-precision for the 40W!

    and this is very good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickle View Post
    Must be a slow news day that random posts with random opinions need to be reported.

    Nobody is going to take that mailing post seriously.
    maybe the tinfoil hats would

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    you don't get the point you get 128 GFLOPS double-precision or 256 GFLOPS single-precision for the 40W!

    and this is very good!
    You didn't get it: we were discussing how good ARM is for mobile computing and you come talking about a server chip

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldesnogu View Post
    You didn't get it: we were discussing how good ARM is for mobile computing and you come talking about a server chip
    this is not a server chip! you can buy notebooks "Lemote 8133 notebook" with that chip-

    the only difference is 28nm for ARM right now and 65nm for lonngson .-.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    this is not a server chip! you can buy notebooks "Lemote 8133 notebook" with that chip-
    As far as I could find, that laptop uses Loongson 3A which doesn't have the vector unit (3C has it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by devius View Post
    Don't you have couches?
    Couches? As in multiple? As a poor student? I do have one old couch.

    But how's that related? Tablets are really un-ergonomic, my wrists don't like it when poking one for more than half an hour. I don't really appreciate touch UIs either, due to their nature they are forced to insert lag (is this a single or double tap? Maybe a gesture?); my fingers aren't invisible; smudges, etc etc.

    (I do have a couple Android tablets, so speaking from experience)

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    Quote Originally Posted by curaga View Post
    Couches? As in multiple? As a poor student? I do have one old couch.

    But how's that related? Tablets are really un-ergonomic, my wrists don't like it when poking one for more than half an hour. I don't really appreciate touch UIs either, due to their nature they are forced to insert lag (is this a single or double tap? Maybe a gesture?); my fingers aren't invisible; smudges, etc etc.

    (I do have a couple Android tablets, so speaking from experience)
    Tablet + stand + external keyboard + duct tape = laptop.

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