01-22-2012, 05:57 PM
I'm looking at things like new hardware support; support for new compression algorithms in cleancache; bugfixes for my USB Audio that probably won't get backported to older kernels.
Originally Posted by jltyper
The mainline kernel is where it's at; things are moving at an incredible pace. 2011 was a bit of a bum year in that not a whole lot of monumental changes happened, but there were still some that were worthwhile enough that I was really motivated to upgrade to each new kernel release.
Only someone who is either extremely lucky or has very old hardware would not want to upgrade to new kernels (very old hardware would make it less beneficial to upgrade because most new kernel pushes add or improve support for newer hardware, or add features that are only applicable to newer hardware). Or just someone who isn't discerning enough to know better.
01-23-2012, 05:55 AM
Intel already has a fully working solution for vaapi, so moving to Galimu3D would not benefit them, what would really benefit Intel is that it would be possible to switch between on-board Intel graphics and discreet AMD/Nvidia graphics without restating the X server when all the free graphics will use the xorg state tracker. I don't mean that it would work right away, but at least it would theoretically allow it, the way fglrx switches now between on-board AMD and discreet AMD since both cards are handled by the same X driver. The same way the xorg state tracker would be able to switch between a Gallium Intel driver and radeon/nouveau without the X server even knowing this.
Originally Posted by ryszardzonk
01-23-2012, 11:39 AM
Extremely lucky? Loosing video performance and proper sleep/suspend for USB audio support isn't what I would call lucky.
Originally Posted by allquixotic
Only someone with old hardware? You might as well say, anyone who doesn't own a new computer. Stop there.
I've seen the changelogs at kernel newbies, I've seen the articles on this website. Only "someone who isn't discerning enough to know better", upgrades just because of a version number. That's just blind faith.
What is exactly is this huge advantage? Some incomplete filesystem? Broken ACPI? Lower FPS average? Is that why people should upgrade? Even Linus himself, has doubts about the newer kernels. Notice how everything is on a support/fix/break cycle?
I have a theory and feel free to prove me wrong. Desktop users, don't need any kernel newer than 2.6.33.
Give me something practical. Really practical. Ext4 scaling to 48 cpus is nice, for example. Personally I'd rather have better/faster graphics. But USB audio support? pffft. That's weak. Weaker than weak. Whatever.
01-25-2012, 09:16 AM
Intel VAAPI encode
Is the libva encode implementation for Sandy (Ivy) Bridge using Quick Sync? Can we expect the same level of performance seen on Windows?
01-26-2012, 02:21 AM
Stop demanding support of old hwd!
Yes both AMD and Nvidia support odler hardware BUT it's due to shared code between Linux and Windows! They do not support linux clients, they support Windows clients (and those should be more by 2 orders of magnitude!). And it mean that their drivers are CLOSED SOURCE.....
I have question, too!
Why there is asimetrical support for DX and OGL in Win? DX11 should mean in theory that OGL 4 is possible O_o.
Does it mean troubles for Linux drivers (that you will not reach DX feature parity in form of OGL 4?).
01-26-2012, 03:18 AM
R300g share code with... what?!
Originally Posted by przemoli
01-26-2012, 03:47 AM
There is one important difference in support for old cards between AMD and nVidia: AMD does not update the old drivers (pre R600) for newer OS'es like Windows 7 or modern Linux distros. nVidia releases those updates for many legacy cards.
01-26-2012, 03:01 PM
Because they already working on R300g.
Originally Posted by AlbertP
01-26-2012, 04:16 PM
No. AMD has just dropped all support for those chips, on both Windows and Linux. This is not related to r300g - you don't even have r300g on Windows. The r300g is maintained by the Mesa people, not by the Catalyst crew.
01-27-2012, 11:55 PM
Only be the Mesa people, no one from AMD? AFAIK you are wrong here.
Originally Posted by AlbertP