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Originally posted by leeenux View PostYou've nailed it, sir. Seriously, I can't believe all of the FUD that's coming out of his mouth, especially considering that he's a moderator for this website. It makes me wonder if Intel signed him up for their "The Way It's Meant To Be Benchmarked" program, it wouldn't be the first time they've tried to corrupt the media, benchmark vendors, or OEMs to unfairly skew public opinion in their favor.Last edited by deanjo; 06 November 2011, 10:33 AM.
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostCan anyone here actually claim that it is remotely worthy of the FX branding?
Given the right workload, it sure does.
The "Bulldozer is a failed architecture" mantra from people claiming they are computer litterate is REALLY getting on my nerves. How short-sighted can one be?
Was the whole marketing of BD good though? Hell no. Pushing the 8 cores aspect was a major blunder.
Anyway, cut down on the wisecracks, dude, seriously...
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostThey are having a hard time. Read their financials and take a look at their stock price
Normalized, we should be looking at somewhere around $14 a shareLast edited by Luke_Wolf; 06 November 2011, 11:43 AM.
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Originally posted by PsynoKhi0 View PostI can.
Given the right workload, it sure does.
The "Bulldozer is a failed architecture" mantra from people claiming they are computer litterate is REALLY getting on my nerves. How short-sighted can one be?
Was the whole marketing of BD good though? Hell no. Pushing the 8 cores aspect was a major blunder.
Anyway, cut down on the wisecracks, dude, seriously...
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostHow can you seriously call it an FX when it barely beats it's predecessor x6's in most loads? Sure under certain workloads it does excel with a bit of improvement but it is nowhere close to being to the original FX's where they mopped up the floor in pretty much every workload.
I'm not sure why you're trolling so hard about Bulldozer being a failure when it's anything but a failure. Michael's benchmark article illustrated that under the typically well threaded Linux workload, that it's extremely competitive vs Sandy Bridge, why you insist on saying it's not is quite suspicious. This is a website about benchmarking Linux, I couldn't care less about what Tom's hardware thought of it under Windows.
PS: Most of the time the server CPUs and the desktop CPUs, and sometimes even the laptop CPUs all come off of the same wafer, it just doesn't make sense for AMD to create separate desktop and server chips when the desktop market is in terminal decline. So Bulldozer for desktops is a server CPU. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Otherwise, please stop spreading FUD about it, you're going to hurt your own stock prices.
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Exactly, and as far as being sold s a high end desktop 8 core CPU is because it still is. This isn't '95 and it's not a 486 clone with only 16Mb of ram, I and anyone else interested in it are going to be running a good dozen apps at the same time natively in Linux and at least a dozen more in at least 1 VM.
I know in my case Firefox, Pidgin, Songbird, Vuze, Gimp, LibreOffice, F@H as well as VirtualBox running Haiku and ReactOS are pretty much never not running. I'm often transcoding DVDs and Blurays to WebM usually while playing a game. Having 8 cores just makes that all run that much smoother and would be much closer to how anyone looking to buy any high end desktop chip would actually be using it daily and not these unrealistic benchmarks where you're running just a single app at a time.
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Frankly I agree with deanjo. He's being honest, I couldn't see any FUD there. BD's about equal to X6 in many loads, yet more expensive and using more power under load. How does that spell "good"?
I actually postponed my purchases a couple of months to see how BD ended up. Guess what? Now typing this on an X6.
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Originally posted by leeenux View PostSandy Bridge barely beats Nehalem under plenty of circumstances. Nehalem barely beat Core2 under plenty of circumstances. Bulldozer beats Sandy Bridge under plenty of circumstances, and/or at least effectively ties it, unless you view benchmarks as a competition, where winning by 1fps is a victory, rather than being a tie within the margin of error.
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