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Originally posted by glxextxexlg View PostAnd many people on the face of this earth thinks the same. They are end-users, and we need them. Having opensource tools to get the job done and binary blobs to get the hardware to actually work well with those tools are two very different things, which you don't understand.
Ahaaa We found our heretics boys! Let's get'em! They hate everything with a GPL license attached to it, they are the sneaky enemies within, so sooner we get rid of them the better. Attaaack!
What a bigoted mind
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'waaaah - waaah - waaah - my driver isnt as good as it could be'
stop whining, get the specs amd released and get coding rather than bitching on a forum
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Originally posted by glxextxexlg View PostIt's not my driver, its your driver. My problem is bad hardware support gets in my way as a developer, hinders software companies' efforts to port software to gnu/linux environment.
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The GNU/Linux environment does not support OpenGL3.
That is the problem and this is what the open driver developers (including AMD and Intel people) are currently addressing.
Binary blobs are not a part of the GNU/Linux environment, they are a kludgy add-on. They are like Crossover Wine for running Internet Explorer, or the ndiswrapper for running Windows drivers. A temporary duct-tape fix for a serious problem: there is no Free and Open Source solution for OpenGL 3, or for programming modern GPU hardware.
Any real fan of GNU/Linux should be interested in fixing this deficiency instead of calling for even more dependence on Linux-hostile hardware manufacturers.
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Originally posted by pingufunkybeat View PostThe GNU/Linux environment does not support OpenGL3.
That is the problem and this is what the open driver developers (including AMD and Intel people) are currently addressing.
Binary blobs are not a part of the GNU/Linux environment, they are a kludgy add-on. They are like Crossover Wine for running Internet Explorer, or the ndiswrapper for running Windows drivers. A temporary duct-tape fix for a serious problem: there is no Free and Open Source solution for OpenGL 3, or for programming modern GPU hardware.
Any real fan of GNU/Linux should be interested in fixing this deficiency instead of calling for even more dependence on Linux-hostile hardware manufacturers.
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Linux-hostile hardware manufacturers.Phoronix, Linux Hardware Reviews, Linux hardware benchmarks, Linux server benchmarks, Linux benchmarking, Desktop Linux, Linux performance, Open Source graphics, Linux How To, Ubuntu benchmarks, Ubuntu hardware, Phoronix Test Suite
If nvidia is hostile towards linux they wouldn't be releasing good binary drivers for it and like it or not, majority of the linux users use their hardware and drivers. Looking at the figures of all gpu sales worldwide, their choice should be intel, because intel sells more IGPs than any other gpu manufacturer (%50 or so of all gpus) and their drivers are fully open source (but are they good enough is the most important part).
And if there's a hostile-towards-linux company it is amd. They release bad binary drivers with bad kernel xserver support. And they release specs and do nearly nothing to develop a driver out of them. And they eventually binary driver support to their hardware, which sucks in the first place.
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Originally posted by glxextxexlg View Posthttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._results&num=1
If nvidia is hostile towards linux they wouldn't be releasing good binary drivers for it and like it or not, majority of the linux users use their hardware and drivers. Looking at the figures of all gpu sales worldwide, their choice should be intel, because intel sells more IGPs than any other gpu manufacturer (%50 or so of all gpus) and their drivers are fully open source (but are they good enough is the most important part).
And if there's a hostile-towards-linux company it is amd. They release bad binary drivers with bad kernel xserver support. And they release specs and do nearly nothing to develop a driver out of them. And they eventually binary driver support to their hardware, which sucks in the first place.
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Originally posted by glxextxexlg View Posthttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag..._results&num=1
If nvidia is hostile towards linux they wouldn't be releasing good binary drivers for it and like it or not, majority of the linux users use their hardware and drivers. Looking at the figures of all gpu sales worldwide, their choice should be intel, because intel sells more IGPs than any other gpu manufacturer (%50 or so of all gpus) and their drivers are fully open source (but are they good enough is the most important part).
And if there's a hostile-towards-linux company it is amd. They release bad binary drivers with bad kernel xserver support. And they release specs and do nearly nothing to develop a driver out of them. And they eventually binary driver support to their hardware, which sucks in the first place.
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