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    Quote Originally Posted by whizse View Post
    Uhm, not that I'm a lawyer or anything, but no, that's not how it works...
    I agree, but I wonder why it doesn't work like that.

    If AMD is developing a driver for AMD hardware, and this driver only runs on AMD hardware (obviously), then why is it not covered by the AMD patent license?

    I mean, the patent is not a trade secret -- everybody knows how it works, and can look it up at the patent office. Using the license for their drivers should therefore not be a problem even if the source is open.

    Another reason why software patents are an evil pile of crap.

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    Out of interest, do we support 3Dc? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3Dc

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    And more importantly, do the same patents still cover it even though it was invented and implemented by ATi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pingufunkybeat View Post
    I agree, but I wonder why it doesn't work like that.

    If AMD is developing a driver for AMD hardware, and this driver only runs on AMD hardware (obviously), then why is it not covered by the AMD patent license?

    I mean, the patent is not a trade secret -- everybody knows how it works, and can look it up at the patent office. Using the license for their drivers should therefore not be a problem even if the source is open.

    Another reason why software patents are an evil pile of crap.
    No idea how a patent license is written, but I think it would be hard to comply with it, and at the same time license the code under an MIT license.

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    The bad news is that S3TC isn't the only patented stuff in GL3:
    http://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2009...OpenGL3andMesa

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nille View Post
    There are only two countries where SW patents are valid.
    in germany software patents are against the law but microsoft win on the highest Court with there FAT software patents.

    do you really think there are only 2 countries?

    USA and Germany? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by whizse View Post
    Uhm, not that I'm a lawyer or anything, but no, that's not how it works...
    in germany for exampel patents in generall do not affect endusers privat persons can not hurt a patent.

    i think in other Countrys this is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanonyme View Post
    Gallium can load an external s3tc library on demand if it's available. The major legal issues are hopefully on user's end. r600g will assumably sooner or later have a similar stance to s3tc as r300g. Of these I'm fairly sure. I'd give it a whack myself if I a bit less vague idea of how it works.
    Unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't even work (properly) on r300g with multitextured apps.

    Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by whizse View Post
    No idea how a patent license is written, but I think it would be hard to comply with it, and at the same time license the code under an MIT license.
    So licence the s3tc part (and only that) under the GPL.

    Best of all, abolish the nonsense already, most of the planet does not even allow such silly patents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamk View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't even work (properly) on r300g with multitextured apps.
    Oh, right. How many of real texture compression programs does that rule out?

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