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Thread: Gaming Benchmarks: Windows 7 vs. Ubuntu Linux

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orionds View Post
    This is probably why Windows will become a major gaming platform.
    Are you living under a stone? Windows is and has been a major gaming platform for ages. Even MS-DOS was a major gaming platform.

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    Looks like Nvidious cares more about their Windows users than their Linux users. Now what are the Nvidious fanboys going to say about their beloved blob?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan View Post
    Looks like Nvidious cares more about their Windows users than their Linux users. Now what are the Nvidious fanboys going to say about their beloved blob?
    Go away, troll. The results mean that the Linux blob is as good as the Windows one. Unless you're blind.

    Shoo. Go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan View Post
    Looks like Nvidious cares more about their Windows users than their Linux users. Now what are the Nvidious fanboys going to say about their beloved blob?
    Lol!!! Nvidia's driver performance is basically uniform. I can vouch for that...
    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24798

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan View Post
    Looks like Nvidious cares more about their Windows users than their Linux users. Now what are the Nvidious fanboys going to say about their beloved blob?
    They know that nVidia doesn't care because they know nVidia doesn't release spec. They don't care about that because otherwise they would have bought Radeons. So they will not respond to your trolling. Especialy not because they care about what works right now and they know that Catalyst in that regard is no match for the nVidia blob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liam View Post
    Now, it is my understanding that Windows no longer has to convert all OpenGL instructions to Direct3D, thus they can get similar performance, but to beat Linux by this much... again, I am guessing this is b/c these tests aren't making extensive use of double precision.
    Does anyone know something concrete?

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    Windows never had to convert OpenGL to D3D.
    Every OpenGL activity is care of the video card driver. ATi and Nvidia have their fully optimized OpenGL drivers that directly call the hardware, instead less important video chip vendors are used to do OpenGL wrapping to D3D (like SiS with their integrated video cards).

    With Vista and 7 things changed to kill OpenGL, but I think video chip vendors have found the way long time ago to avoid stupid Microsoft impositions.

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    I went on and ran the benchmarks myself to check my doubts about Ubuntu having unfairly compositing enabled in Michael's benchmarks.

    As my operating systems I've got Windows 7 Professional and Arch Linux (using Unstable repo), both 64-bit. Arch has Linux 2.6.35 kernel and latest beta drivers from Nvidia, Windows 7 drivers were whatever the Windows Update fed me. I forgot to install the latest Windows drivers from nvidia.com, sorry. For the hardware part, my system consists of an Intel Core 2 Duo E7200, a GeForce 7900 GS and 4 GBs of RAM.

    I chose to do Lightsmark 2008 and Nexuiz. The Nexuiz benches were ran with 32-bit binaries due to the fact Alientrap doesn't supply us with a 64-bit build for Windows. As the benchmark I executed timedemo using a built-in demo "demo1" (run command 'timedemo demos/demo1' in the Nexuiz console).

    I'm a bit suspicious of the validity of my Lightsmark results because the benchmark did run in windowed mode on Linux but in fullscreen on Windows. Therefore I manually changed my desktop resolution to be that of the test's and that resulted as a slightly higher FPS. Dunno.

    The results were:

    *** Lightsmark 2008
    *** Drivers: 0x AA, 0x AF forced
    Windows: 96.2 fps
    Linux: 98.7
    Linux*: 102.6

    *** Lightsmark 2008
    *** Drivers: 4x AA, 4x AF forced
    Windows: 72.4 fps
    Linux: 72.3
    Linux*: 77.2

    * Resolution/fullscreen correction

    *** Nexuiz: default settings
    *** Drivers: 0x AA, 0x AF forced
    Seconds -- fps min | avg | max
    Windows: 31 -- 39 | 64 | 121
    Linux: 30 -- 39 | 68 | 122

    *** Nexuiz: maximum detail ('ultra' preset + everything else maxed)
    *** Drivers: auto settings
    Seconds -- fps min | avg | max
    Windows: 120 -- 9 | 17 | 32
    Linux: 114 -- 10 | 18 | 36

    *** Nexuiz: 'normal' preset
    *** Drivers: auto settings
    Windows: 48 -- 26 | 40 | 67
    Linux: 30 -- 38 | 67 | 121 ??? This must've been a Nexuiz preset mismatch, insane difference.

    Short: Linux won every benchmark. I ran all the benchmarks 2-3 times and the differences were minimal and nothing was left for interpretations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curfew View Post
    I went on and ran the benchmarks myself to check my doubts about Ubuntu having unfairly compositing enabled in Michael's benchmarks.
    It is not unfair if Ubuntu ships with Compositing enabled, which they do. Just because they have not implemented a disable on demand feature as Windows has speaks more to Microsoft's tuning of their OS for a wider audience than Ubuntu.

    Again, if this is a huge issue, file a bug report with Ubuntu. Until Ubuntu changes their policy, Michael won't (and shouldn't) touch the setting in his benchmarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by locovaca View Post
    It is not unfair if Ubuntu ships with Compositing enabled, which they do. Just because they have not implemented a disable on demand feature as Windows has speaks more to Microsoft's tuning of their OS for a wider audience than Ubuntu.
    Don't modern Windows systems come with Aero enabled as well? (and yes, you can disable compositing from Gnome unless Ubuntu removed that functionality)

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    Quote Originally Posted by locovaca View Post
    It is not unfair if Ubuntu ships with Compositing enabled, which they do. Just because they have not implemented a disable on demand feature as Windows has speaks more to Microsoft's tuning of their OS for a wider audience than Ubuntu.
    That's just bullshit you're saying. This isn't about professional tweaking, just being fair and square. It's idiotic to compare a composited desktop performance to an uncomposited one, totally useless.

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