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Originally posted by V!NCENT View PostDid you know...
... that the iPhone has a YouTube player?
... that http://m.youtube.com doesn't use flash but a lightweight mpeg-like codec? (right click watch video to download it!)
... that with a YouTube plugin you can search/browse YouTube vids with Totem and also get the related vids listed?
... that flash sucked?
... that most website have a cheap workaround in case flash is not detected?
I didn't install flash after I installed Fedora and after a month I realised that I didn't miss anything. It is just a habit to have Flash but once you kicked of cold turkey, you realise that there's nothing you'll miss after you found workarounds or other websites that provide you with exactly the same...
Steve Jobs isn't a prophet, but he sure as hell is the kickstart that was needed to start getting rid of closed web tech that was not needed in the first place!
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Originally posted by DeiF View PostEveryone is taking about flash for video.
I'm really the one that plays flash games? Dozens of games are created everyday. We need an opensource flash player for preserving these pieces of art, in the same way programs like ScummVM preserve old DOS adventure games.
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@droid: careful, you're starting to foam an the mouth. Funny how I see everybody complaining about lack of native linux ports of mainstream games as a major roadblock for LotD, yet you're arguing that Flash games are irrelevant? Really? You may not care about them but others certainly do. (I'm sure there was a study showing, in terms of people playing, Flash games dwarf native games by a large margin.) I don't give a hoot about games one needs to install, but I'm not running my mouth in the "steam for linux" thread shouting "What's this Steam thing and why should I care?"
Anyway, regarding (useful) non-video flash use-cases, web-based "photoshop", anyone? Google Street-view? The recent showcase of security features of the 500-dollar bill?
You think everybody can jump to HTML5 - guess what, they can't until IE supports it. And I'd much rather have a site done in Flash than IE-specific sites from the olden days.
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Originally posted by myxal View Post@droid: careful, you're starting to foam an the mouth. Funny how I see everybody complaining about lack of native linux ports of mainstream games as a major roadblock for LotD, yet you're arguing that Flash games are irrelevant? Really? You may not care about them but others certainly do.
Anyway, regarding (useful) non-video flash use-cases, web-based "photoshop", anyone? Google Street-view? The recent showcase of security features of the 500-dollar bill?
bill. Also I can install GIMP, so I could not care less about a Flash based Photoshop clone... Google Street-view can me ported and is not vital.
You think everybody can jump to HTML5 - guess what, they can't until IE supports it. And I'd much rather have a site done in Flash than IE-specific sites from the olden days.
IE and Windows is a dead horse. Nobody (except for a few realy lost souls) picked up MS Office > MS Office 2003...
Let's fsck IE. You are stuck in the past... Snap out of it...
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Originally posted by V!NCENT View PostDude... you can still download that security hole and in 64bit notwithstanding. What is your point?
Yeah because we are all aware that Flash is required for showcasing the features of a $500 bill.
Also I can install GIMP, so I could not care less about a Flash based Photoshop clone...Google Street-view can me ported and is not vital.
Yes everybody can. Large website already did it. IE's marketshare is declining very rapidly. Because all other non-IE browsers combined have more marketshare than IE, why can't IE users get blocked in favor of all the other compliant browsers, instead of the other way around?- last time I checked, IE held the largest share, even in Europe,
- inertia
- "nobody got fired for going with Micrsoft"-thinking
IE and Windows is a dead horse. Nobody (except for a few realy lost souls) picked up MS Office > MS Office 2003...
Let's fsck IE. You are stuck in the past... Snap out of it...
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Originally posted by droidhacker View PostSo you play penguin throw or bloody penguin throw. Wow. You'll really be missing a lot there.
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So we hear about how Gnash doesn't work well, as the Flash specs are incomplete but Lightspark is only attempting to build their flash runtime environment to-spec? Could I get some clarification on this? Is that merely the immediate goal and WINE-esque workaound work is set to commence as soon as Lightspark's ActionScript3 support is complete?
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