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Originally posted by mugginz View PostGiven the level of support for Evergreen and FOSS drivers, I assumed he was talking about fglrx.
They should have just sticked to VESA for Evergreen. This is just making Ubuntu and/or ATI look bad.
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Originally posted by monraaf View PostUbuntu does not ship with fglrx installed. The default driver is the oss driver. Unfortunately for Evergreen cards that driver not very useful at the moment. On top of that Ubuntu ships with UMS for Evergreen which is known to be broken, so people get a black screen before they even get a chance to install fglrx.
They should have just sticked to VESA for Evergreen. This is just making Ubuntu and/or ATI look bad.
Yeh but in Ubuntu fglrx is just a few clicks away (and a few crashes as well)
It would seem that if you use Linux then don't buy an Evergreen card yet and if you already have one then use Windows.
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Originally posted by Jimbo View Post- If you want to use wine a lot (I will never understand this type of linux user, please boot up windows and really enjoy your games) your card should be nvidia, because wine has better support for it.
WINE could be slow and crashy running WoW, but it offered me a better experience than I had running Windows a few years back, and I am not about to go back to Windows.
So there really is a reason to do this, even though it may seem odd.
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The FOSS driver and power management doesn't work according to what I read. I'm not sure about drm and I don't know if that's something everyone uses or just 'beta' (experimental) in which you can expect bugs again.
If you don't know for sure, why are you spreading FUD?
FOSS drivers have dynamic powersaving with the vanilla 2.6.34 kernels today, and 2.6.35 will bring even better powersaving in a couple of months.
The drm-radeon-testing branch is indeed an experimental branch of the kernel, but parts of it get merged into the mainstream Linus kernel regularly.
Both the binary nVidia driver and the binary ATi driver are better at powersaving at the moment than the radeon FOSS driver, but at least try to stick to the facts, please.
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Originally posted by monraaf View PostUnfortunately for Evergreen cards that driver not very useful at the moment. On top of that Ubuntu ships with UMS for Evergreen which is known to be broken, so people get a black screen before they even get a chance to install fglrx.
I guess a lot of plp are blaming ati without having one, or without trying for them selfs. They read other people that blame too and they got infected, then an anti-ati plague is formed in phoronix phorums . Ati 4000 series, as I said, are working pretty well. And of course ati has powersave, who spread the rumor that ati doesn't have?
aticonfig --od-getclocks
Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Core (MHz) Memory (MHz)
Current Clocks : 110 250
Current Peak : 600 400
Configurable Peak Range : [300-800] [400-700]
GPU load : 0%
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nah! the answer is easy, in the windows 7 article Michael configured (an FirePro V8800, which is their first workstation graphics card derived from an ATI Evergreen graphics processor) and run all type of test. So I guess that ati evergreen is working fine once you install fglrx driver!!
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Originally posted by Jimbo View PostUbuntu fault then, what I am really interested is to know if once you installed correctly fglrx 10.4 ati evergreen system is running fine and stable?? I would love to have an evergreen to test my self.
Originally posted by Jimbo View PostI guess a lot of plp are blaming ati without having one, or without trying for them selfs. They read other people that blame too and they got infected, then an anti-ati plague is formed in phoronix phorums .
Originally posted by Jimbo View PostAti 4000 series, as I said, are working pretty well. And of course ati has powersave, who spread the rumor that ati doesn't have?
Originally posted by Jimbo View Postaticonfig --od-getclocks
Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Core (MHz) Memory (MHz)
Current Clocks : 110 250
Current Peak : 600 400
Configurable Peak Range : [300-800] [400-700]
GPU load : 0%
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