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How can I test the AMD Video Aceleration? Got a 4850 on a 22" LCD via HDMI and a 40" LCD via DVI. I tested a few short clips with 1080p content and didn't see my CPU getting any extra work (or at least anything noticeable). I use gstreamer with OpenGL output.
CPU is a Phenom X3 @ 2200.
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Originally posted by Qaridariumyes but you can't stop me buy my favored card ;-)
yes its not all perfect yet...
but in 2011 i will buy a R900 based card with or Without a driver.
kano why do you don't respect the freedome of Choice ? in your world there is only 1 'Nvidia'
Today in my world the difference amd vs nvidia is only the viedeo acceleration on codexes i do NOT use.....
i wan't a viedeo-acceleration based DRM-Copyprotection-Adobe-Flash world domination thats Evil!
the nvidia solution and the UVD2 Solution is pure Evil!
TCPA Chip in your Brain on youtube on google on youporn and HDCP in your HDMI monitor and HDCP in your grafikcart...
o wow!........ Pure evil!
If you don't care about video decoding on the GPU, there are many other things think about... like desktop compositing with KDE4, 2D desktop acceleration (XRender), OpenGL game compatibility - or how well all of those 3 work when their features are all being used concurrently.
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@cjr2k3
You should get yourself a bluray drive and appropriate software to put it on hd. You may find huge m2ts on other places too, but small clips are not worth checking cpu usage. When you look at Youtube hd 1080p the max. bitrate I found was less then 20 mbit, less than 4 average. Bluray allows up to 48 mbit and most movies use over 30 mbit average bitrate. Action scenes easyly hit the max bitrate allowed. You may want to look here how to test vaapi:
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Originally posted by QaridariumReally no one? i buy a hd3850 in 2007-11-x and no linux driver supports this card ;-) first the 2008-2 fglrx supports this card..
I think he had a good point. I don't have an 'advanced' or recent ATI card but I can just guess what it may be like with the various 3D features based on the Radeon X.Org pages that have been posted and my experience with my older Radeon card.
Imho, the majority of the video card buyers will want working drivers pretty quick. Especially if you just bought a $200 or $300 card. You might tolerate some issues or problems but if it becomes a case of continuous issues or unstable/flaky drivers, the user will be more concerned with what they want to do than some company's project.
If Nvidia decides to replace code to achieve a working driver that allows more features, the general user will probably accept that even if it's not ideal. They're able to do what they want to do. Although ATI's method might be ideal and better in principle, if you, the user runs into a constant battle of trying X, Y and Z in order to use their hardware and on top of that, features aren't optimized, they might become frustrated (understandably so) so not too enthusiastic anymore about the 'ideal way.'
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Originally posted by Kano View Post@cjr2k3
You should get yourself a bluray drive and appropriate software to put it on hd. You may find huge m2ts on other places too, but small clips are not worth checking cpu usage. When you look at Youtube hd 1080p the max. bitrate I found was less then 20 mbit, less than 4 average. Bluray allows up to 48 mbit and most movies use over 30 mbit average bitrate. Action scenes easyly hit the max bitrate allowed. You may want to look here how to test vaapi:
http://kanotix.com/index.php?module=...MplayerScripts
I got a MKS movie encoded with: x264_L4.1
I tried to play it but every single player just crashed... (VLC, Mplayer, Totem, SMPlayer). Then I instaled XBMC and got the movie played but all the colors got messed up (Even for new movies, had to restart XBMC).
I read that XBMC uses Mplayer, by using your script XBMC can use VAAPI too?
I'll test it later tonight anyway.
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No idea, my scripts just installs a global mplayer in a really new version. smplayer is just a frontend and usually does not use vaapi options, so use it from commandline. You can also try to use
-demuxer lavf
when the default mplayer demuxer does not work.
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Originally posted by cjr2k3 View PostI read that XBMC uses Mplayer, by using your script XBMC can use VAAPI too?
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Originally posted by QaridariumReally no one? i buy a hd3850 in 2007-11-x and no linux driver supports this card ;-) first the 2008-2 fglrx supports this card..
Really ? i have a dream about a opensource driver i don't care about first Day closed source support.
michaels phoronix artikel abaut the power consuming of nvidias viedeo acceleration shows to me a power consuming waste if you use nvidias viedeo acceleration...
you can save energie if you use the CPU and Xviedeo!
if you are green you can save the world by use the cpu and do not buy energy waste nvidia viedeo acceleration !
read this artikle abaut the real GREEN solution: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...u_mobile&num=1
thats works fine if you use the radeon and mesa7.7 or 7.8
radeon is really fast exa!
there is no new openGL game... so in real i only care abaut wine compatibility
You have a dream about an open source driver, but why don't you invest heavily into AMD when they have a solution that can do all 3 without changing drivers; XRender optimizations / fast 2d (exa possibly), good AIGLX support (for desktop compositing with compiz or kde4's kwin effects), good OpenGL compatibility (play games of today, not less than OpenGL 2.0), and possibly video codec decompression or at least XVideo support.
And also, nvidia's "power waste" when using vdpau means the GPU is being utilized. That frees up the CPU to do other things that are time critical, preventing decoding underruns, pops and clicks, frame drops, etc. On an ION net book, that's incredibly important. I would never use XV instead of VDPAU if I had the choice on that small little thing.
Nvidia's driver also underclocks the GPU and VRAM when it's not being utilized by default, something I haven't seen any of ati's cards to hands free in Linux. There is the DynamicClocks or dynclks module parameter with the radeon module, but I don't know how effective that is at the moment.
EDIT: just learned that Qaridium is a sidux fan - probably explains his tendencies to lie so blatantly and intensively like the rest of the sidux forum commoners as if they have a piece of helpful information that no one else can find. In other words, fabricated knowledge.Last edited by damentz; 07 January 2010, 10:42 PM.
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