Recommendations on Radeon card for Debian desktop.

[Kano]

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/commit/?id=b9eb2380df5145c85b2ef694a04628c055c47429

This should fix this issue. Don't know why this did not happen with your card. My card:

ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4550] [1002:9540] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Device [1002:2143]

I see no fix for radeonhd yet.

[pingufunkybeat]

It looks like it doesn't affect all monitors, so maybe my monitor is fine?

Anyway, if there are issues with 4550 and some monitors, then perhaps it's not the best recommendation. I personally haven't had any trouble, so I didn't even know that such a problem existed.

[agd5f]

It only affects some users/monitors. None of my cards or monitors exhibited the problem.

[Kano]

Well maybe you need a LG W2242T for your collection

[DanL]

If you're satisfied with the X1300, why not work on getting airflow over the heatsink? You could buy a quiet aftermarket cooler or be creative and find some way to get some airflow over it. EVen a little bit of airflow can make a significant difference in temps.

I yes, can someone reccomend an HD card that is quiet, power efficient, and capable of driving a 1920x1200 DVI display?

RadeonHD 4350/4550 is your best bet right now if you need a new card. I have a passively cooled Sapphire 4550.

[Tillin9]

I have a HIS fanless HD4650 - http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-400.shtml. I got it from NewEgg almost a year ago. Sadly they no longer carry it. It works really well with fglrx since I got it (around 9.2) - the only thing that isn't flawless for me is a little tearing in video. Kwin's compositing works great, my gaming isn't very intense but everything I want works, etc.

I've been playing around with the open drivers. It's almost ready to be used day-to-day with the OSS stack. I'd wager a couple more months and everything needed will be stable and in distro repositories. Of course to get the best 3D we'll be custom compiling for awhile.

[Kano]

I really think fglrx users do not parallely own a system with nvidia

[nyc_paramedic]

If you're satisfied with the X1300, why not work on getting airflow over the heatsink? You could buy a quiet aftermarket cooler or be creative and find some way to get some airflow over it. EVen a little bit of airflow can make a significant difference in temps.


RadeonHD 4350/4550 is your best bet right now if you need a new card. I have a passively cooled Sapphire 4550.

Sorry for the tardy reply, as I was trying to do what you suggested. As an experiment I did have a 80mm fan positioned to blow air on the X1300's heatsink. Now it's super cool to the touch.

But I'm getting the lockups in X that I was getting before. Playing with 3D xscreensavers eventually leads to X freezing. I can still move the X cursor. Can't swicth to a console either. It happens when I watch flash videos in fullscreen using FF 3.5 as well. I can SSH and kill X.

So, how do I figure this out? Or should I get a new card. All the details of my system are in my first post.

Here is some output from dmesg after killing X:
[38683.324341] Pid: 16591, comm: skytentacles Not tainted (2.6.30-1-686 #1) System Product Name
[38683.324344] EIP: 0060:[<f81160a3>] EFLAGS: 00210246 CPU: 1
[38683.324351] EIP is at radeon_read_ring_rptr+0x1b/0x1e [radeon]
[38683.324353] EAX: f4dc3340 EBX: f6963400 ECX: 0000000a EDX: 00000000
[38683.324355] ESI: f8b7a000 EDI: f68b8800 EBP: f6fe5534 ESP: f56fbdfc
[38683.324358] DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0000 SS: 0068
[38683.324361] Process skytentacles (pid: 16591, ti=f56fa000 task=c3e08df0 task.ti=f56fa000)
[38683.324363] Stack:
[38683.324364] f811672d f8b7a000 f6963400 f81175b7 f6963400 f68b8800 f8118eb6 00000008
[38683.324369] f68b8800 f6994cf8 f8056837 00000008 f4e3abc0 f6994cf8 f6fe5534 c018e319
[38683.324374] f70200c0 f4e3abc0 00000000 f69ce780 00000000 c018bb2c f69ce780 00000001
[38683.324380] Call Trace:
[38683.324382] [<f811672d>] ? radeon_commit_ring+0x47/0x91 [radeon]
[38683.324392] [<f81175b7>] ? radeon_do_cp_idle+0x105/0x10e [radeon]
[38683.324399] [<f8118eb6>] ? radeon_do_release+0x7f/0x187 [radeon]
[38683.324406] [<f8056837>] ? drm_lastclose+0x31/0x232 [drm]
[38683.324427] [<c018e319>] ? __fput+0xa6/0x135
[38683.324432] [<c018bb2c>] ? filp_close+0x4e/0x54
[38683.324436] [<c012855b>] ? put_files_struct+0x60/0xa6
[38683.324441] [<c0129b8a>] ? do_exit+0x1a6/0x5b8
[38683.324444] [<c0129ffa>] ? do_group_exit+0x5e/0x85
[38683.324447] [<c01316fd>] ? get_signal_to_deliver+0x303/0x322
[38683.324452] [<c0102623>] ? do_notify_resume+0x64/0x561
[38683.324456] [<c012e55f>] ? lock_timer_base+0x19/0x35
[38683.324460] [<c019721b>] ? vfs_ioctl+0x50/0x5f
[38683.324464] [<c019766e>] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x444/0x47f
[38683.324468] [<f8057f58>] ? drm_handle_vblank+0x2c/0x2e [drm]
[38683.324485] [<f81205a7>] ? radeon_driver_irq_handler+0xe6/0x11b [radeon]
[38683.324493] [<c0111fda>] ? ack_apic_level+0x8f/0x165
[38683.324497] [<c015be27>] ? handle_fasteoi_irq+0x90/0x97
[38683.324502] [<c01976ea>] ? sys_ioctl+0x41/0x58
[38683.324505] [<c01031a4>] ? work_notifysig+0x13/0x1b
[38683.324509] Code: 91 04 01 00 00 8b 40 10 83 c0 40 89 10 31 c0 c3 f6 80 1e 03 00 00 08 8b 80 e0 00 00 00 74 06 03 50 10 8b 02 c3 83 e2 fc 03 50 10 <8b> 02 c3 83 78 5c 00 74 07 31 d2 e9 d5 ff ff ff 66 83 b8 1c 03
[38683.324535] EIP: [<f81160a3>] radeon_read_ring_rptr+0x1b/0x1e [radeon] SS:ESP 0068:f56fbdfc
[38683.324543] CR2: 0000000000000000
[38683.324545] ---[ end trace 46493598418d8ed4 ]---
[38683.324548] Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!

Gent's any help would be appreciated. You can ask for any logs as well.

[bridgman]

For a long time the X screen savers (particularly the complex ones) have been the only thing that can hang up my system (3450 + open drivers). The hang only happens occasionally, but each time it hangs when exiting the screen saver.

When I looked into the problems I found a lot of posts indicating that the problem was in the screensaver and happened on lots of different drivers. I'm not 100% convinced because I think I remember one hang when quitting out of a different 3D app, but I have to admit that in the last couple of months the *only* hang I have seen is with specific screen savers. Maybe the combination of a screensaver bug PLUS driver bug, not sure.

Are you seeing hangs with anything other than the screensavers ?

[nyc_paramedic]

For a long time the X screen savers (particularly the complex ones) have been the only thing that can hang up my system (3450 + open drivers). The hang only happens occasionally, but each time it hangs when exiting the screen saver.

When I looked into the problems I found a lot of posts indicating that the problem was in the screensaver and happened on lots of different drivers. I'm not 100% convinced because I think I remember one hang when quitting out of a different 3D app, but I have to admit that in the last couple of months the *only* hang I have seen is with specific screen savers. Maybe the combination of a screensaver bug PLUS driver bug, not sure.

Are you seeing hangs with anything other than the screensavers ?

This has been a Linux household for the last 10 (if not more) years and I have never had X lockup on me with xscreensaver before; even the short time I used an Nvidia 7800 GTX and its proprietary drivers. And yes, as I stated earlier, I get lockups when I play flash videos in Firefox. I notice it when I play full screen flash videos of South Park, The Daily Show, and The Colbert Report. Sorry, I don't watch much TV. I don't even own one really.

I have never had an issue with my earlier Sapphire x1300 (RV515) using the radeon driver. Yes, I'm using a x1300 (V516) with the radeonhd driver now, but that's because the radeon driver and this X1300 (RV516) gives me wicked artifact/sparklies.