AMD Catalyst 9.9 Released !

[klaus]

@Klaus: really X1400 isn't supported by fglrx anymore. Sad but true. The open-source drivers should work fine with your hardware, but GLSL is not up to par yet, opengl works fine up to v1.5 functionality I think.

Yeah right. I can use compiz on my system, but that is not my concern now, I need to use my garphic cards capabilities. I think it could be nicer of ATI if they drop support for the older cards when the open source drivers reach to fruition. I don't mean they should have coped with lots of difficulties to update drivers for the non unified shader (If I recall correctly), but just update a "legacy driver" (probably based on catalyst 9.3) to be able to be installed on newer kernels and Xs...

[mirv]

If you need to use the full capabilities of your graphics card, switch to older drivers (which in turn might require an older kernel). If you knew your uni project required such things, I'm going to assume you had it running properly at some stage - in which case, poking at it and having it no longer working is your own fault.

[nanonyme]

Yeap, don't upgrade what isn't broken. :3

[klaus]

Yup. There goes my point of using Fedora. I'm not using it just to use a linux, or just someone else said it was better. I'm using Fedora because I like to move with the bleeding edge of softwares and technology; which in this case it seems I shall cope with using my graphic hardware with limited functionality.
The best solution now which does not require downgrading, is using another pc, which I think I can manage it.

Thanks for the help though, at least I know now that I should not check out any more catalysts on each month!

[rbmorse]

If you try to run bleeding edge software on ancient hardware at some point you're bound to discover that backward compatibility is more than an abstract concept.

[asdfgh2091]

kaffeine isn't crashing anymore

Hurrah:

With the new (9.9) driver you can watch TV by using kaffeine and the xv xine-driver. It doesn't seem to crash anymore. I'm happy.

According to Xorg.0.log:

The driver now seems to guarantee support the X server 5.0 (of ubuntu 9.4) which it hadn't in 9.8.
More AIGLX visuals are supported. What are they good for?

I almost didn't download the driver because these good news weren't mentioned in the release notes.


excerpt of diff Xorg.0.log Xorg.0.log.old (I'm using a HD3450):

158a159,160
> (WW) This ATI Proprietary Linux Driver does not guarantee support of video driver ABI higher than 2.0
> (WW) Video driver ABI version of the X server is 5.0
471,472c475,476
< (II) fglrx(0): Version: 8.65.4
< (II) fglrx(0): Date: Aug 13 2009
---
> (II) fglrx(0): Version: 8.64.3
> (II) fglrx(0): Date: Jul 14 2009
534a539,566
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x25
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x26
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x27
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x29
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2a
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2b
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2d
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2e
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2f
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x31
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x33
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x34
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x35
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x36
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x37
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x38
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x39
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3a
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3b
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3c
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3d
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x3e
538a571,574
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x43
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x44
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x45
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x46
542a579,606
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4c
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4d
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4e
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4f
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x50
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x51
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x52
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x53
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x54
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x55
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x56
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x57
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x58
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x59
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5a
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5c
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5d
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5e
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5f
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x60
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x61
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x62
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x63
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x64
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x65
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x66
546a611,614
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6b
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6c
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6d
> (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x6e

[asdfgh2091]

kaffeine stills crashes

Zu fr?h gefreut:
Kaffeine still crashes and takes the X-server with it. Since kaffeine with the opensource driver radeon (which has xv support), this should be a catalyst problem. Here the last lines of Xorg.0.log:

Backtrace:
0: X(xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x813518b]
1: X(xf86SigHandler+0x55) [0x80c7be5]
2: [0xb7f31400]
3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//glesx.so [0xb52735ee]
4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//glesx.so [0xb523f8fc]
5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//glesx.so [0xb52400aa]
6: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//glesx.so [0xb51c18fb]
7: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//glesx.so [0xb51b3595]
8: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//glesx.so [0xb51b0e94]
9: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//glesx.so(esutUpdateSurfData+0x2e) [0xb51b003e]
10: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//amdxmm.so [0xb516fa43]
11: X [0x80de538]
12: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so(XvdiPutImage+0x190) [0xb78cd890]
13: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so [0xb78d0f5a]
14: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so(ProcXvDispatch+0x3a) [0xb78d1f8a]
15: X(Dispatch+0x33f) [0x808d57f]
16: X(main+0x3bd) [0x80722ed]
17: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0xb7b05775]
18: X [0x80717a1]
Saw signal 11. Server aborting.
(II) UnloadModule: "kbd"
(II) UnloadModule: "mouse"
(II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch
(II) fglrx(0): IRQ 2299 Disabled.
ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log

[Kano]

You can use in

.xine/config

video.driverpengl
video.output.opengl_renderer:2D_Tex[

(it does not correctly work with 2D_Tex_Fragprog)

[asdfgh2091]

catalyst and kaffein

You can use in

.xine/config

video.driverpengl
video.output.opengl_renderer:2D_Tex[

(it does not correctly work with 2D_Tex_Fragprog)

Thanks for the reply. I am using video.driver:xshm at the moment (I change it at the kaffeine menu). I just don't like to be able to reproduce a "Blue Screen Of Death"-Experience in Linux. Anyone else has the problem?

[klaus]

If you try to run bleeding edge software on ancient hardware at some point you're bound to discover that backward compatibility is more than an abstract concept.

Yeah. That's right. Good point.
Although, this is because of non open source bleeding edge software, but is it true for open source ones too?
I really want to know, whether open source drivers which are written to work on ancient hardware, are still in living? are they distributed by linux vendors? Like for example drivers for cable network cards?
Or are they thrown away? just a void optimism?