The future without HAL, regarding multiseat

[L33F3R]

Ya HAL support is being depricated and being replaced by DeviceKit. It's the new "we are going to replace some older working stuff with something still in it's infancy and largely unproven, please bear with us for the next year and a half to get it semi working correctly" project.

sounds about right

[Ant P.]

good riddance! hal is a POS, breaking all the time. Its config files are worse than the stuff they replace. Just compare a nice Xorg.conf with Hal's *fdi files. Unreadable xml - and convoluted crap.

The worst part of hal is this:

~ $ apropos xorg | grep '(5)' || echo 'quack!'
xorg.conf [xorg]     (5)  - configuration File for Xorg X server
~ $ apropos fdi | grep '(5)' || echo 'quack!'
quack!
~ $ apropos hal | grep '(5)' || echo 'quack!'
quack!

No. Documentation. Whatsoever.

I tried to get a tablet working once with a HAL-using Xserver. Wow, that was weeks of fun.

[deanjo]

The worst part of hal is this:

~ $ apropos xorg | grep '(5)' || echo 'quack!'
xorg.conf [xorg]     (5)  - configuration File for Xorg X server
~ $ apropos fdi | grep '(5)' || echo 'quack!'
quack!
~ $ apropos hal | grep '(5)' || echo 'quack!'
quack!

No. Documentation. Whatsoever.

I tried to get a tablet working once with a HAL-using Xserver. Wow, that was weeks of fun.

Documentation is always a problem. Even if it does exist all to often it's outdated in many projects.

[V!NCENT]

Documentation is always a problem. Even if it does exist all to often it's outdated in many projects.

Linux From Scratch... Reading through that PDF yesterday, while, yes, outdated, taught me more about Linux than using it and learning it on the web ever since the year 2001 (yes; 8 years >.<) and I am just starting to understand it... GOD!

[deanjo]

and I am just starting to understand it... GOD!

And now you must be disposed of. Thou shalt not try to understand.

[V!NCENT]

And now you must be disposed of. Thou shalt not try to understand.

What was this round earth and Big Bang you were talking about? xD

[energyman]

Documentation is always a problem. Even if it does exist all to often it's outdated in many projects.

except that X documentation is pretty good.

[deanjo]

except that X documentation is pretty good.

Did I say it wasn't?

[energyman]

>Documentation is always a problem. Even if it does exist all to often it's outdated in many projects.

while talking about X and hal documentation. So pretty much - yes.

[deanjo]

>Documentation is always a problem. Even if it does exist all to often it's outdated in many projects.

while talking about X and hal documentation. So pretty much - yes.

Heh well given the example posted it seems the opposite now doesn't it? Come on keep up with the topic.