Gnash Starts To Shine With Fourth Beta Release

[Rubicashrama]

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[nanonyme]

There wasn't a problem with the 32-bit version of Flash; run natively under a 32-bit browser, it works fine.

The problem is fundamentally one of running any 32-bit plugin under nspluginwrapper and a 64-bit browser. So, nspluginwrapper is the underlying problem, but flash is one of those few remaining plugins that required it, until they released a 64-bit native build.

Yeah, I - as probably quite a few others - sent Adobe a message prior to their announcement of wanting to make a 64-bit build in which I attempted to as diplomatically as possible explain the whole nspluginwrapper situation with 64bit Linuxes and why it's not ideal for Adobe (if nspluginwrapper has a bug, people complain about Adobe's Flash still and other such stuff which is bad for Adobe's brand; forgotten quite a bit of what I said). Maybe companies actually do listen and learn if they've given good enough reasons economic-wise? :3
(Or then they just fed up with the nagging)

[Kano]

The Flash plugin for 64 bit has the same codebase as the 32 bit version, just the opengl accelleration feature is missing (reports exactly the same version). Therefore it is a bit slow with hd content - even with nvidia or fglrx driver. Best performance you get with 32 bit with binary 3d driver and activated vsync for opengl.

[Wyatt]

The Flash plugin for 64 bit has the same codebase as the 32 bit version, just the opengl accelleration feature is missing (reports exactly the same version). Therefore it is a bit slow with hd content - even with nvidia or fglrx driver. Best performance you get with 32 bit with binary 3d driver and activated vsync for opengl.

Interesting, I wasn't actually aware of all of that. 'Course, even had I been when it came out, I still wouldn't have hesitated. You simply cannot beat orders of magnitude when it comes to improving browser stability.

[Kano]

browser crashes is something that i do not worry about anymore, just happens too ofter. There is a crash recover feature that works at least

[Pfanne]

browser crashes is something that i do not worry about anymore, just happens too ofter. There is a crash recover feature that works at least

having to reload you halfstreamed episode of whatever is kinda frustrating

[Wyatt]

browser crashes is something that i do not worry about anymore, just happens too ofter. There is a crash recover feature that works at least

Well the bigger problem is that the nspluginwrapped Flash tended to actually crash my sound entirely. I'm not sure on specifics, but I ended up reloading my sound module frequently.

And restoring 60+ tabs can be time-consuming.

[Kano]

Nobody needs to use pluginwrapper, remove that. You can use java and flash natively for 64 bit. I don't get why you still talk about that outdated wrapper.

[Wyatt]

Nobody needs to use pluginwrapper, remove that. You can use java and flash natively for 64 bit. I don't get why you still talk about that outdated wrapper.

Huh? I believe we've had a miscommunication. I haven't used the wrapper since the day the 64-bit builds first went public. I was saying that, even had I known that the 64-bit builds don't have GPU acceleration, I wouldn't have hesitated to switch to them. The stability of both my browser and my sound drivers, while not perfect, really is hundreds of times better with the natively 64-bit Flash plugin. It did cause me many problems in the past, but not so many now.

[RealNC]

Nobody needs to use pluginwrapper, remove that. You can use java and flash natively for 64 bit. I don't get why you still talk about that outdated wrapper.

I still use the wrapper for the Acrobat Reader plugin