Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer
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Phoenix Is Trying To Be An Open Version Of Apple's Swift
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Yawn,
I've been following GNUstep for about 5 years now. No progress made on making a usable desktop (come on, where is the System Preferences plugin for network-manager or hell ifconfig, and a plugin for PulseAudio/ALSA. 0 progress on implementing Tables and SimpleWebkit ), half rotting applications with no focus around what they're doing and an API that frankly is useless outside of OSX, unless you want to run an application that looks out of place on every current desktop. Sadly it didn't have to be this way. With a more concentrated effort on getting the simplewebkit implementation and Vespucci up to snuff, and someone refactoring terminal.app to support tabs (something OSX has had since version 10.1 at least.) GNUStep could have made a pretty attractive development/desktop environment. But as it stands, it's not overly useful, and running individual apps as standalone, I think I'd rather see apps rewritten with a GTK or QT interface. It's a shame because the potential of GNUstep is so much better than the other APIs but the lack of development on the end user front means the API will almost never be used outside of weird projects like phones and obscure applications.
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Originally posted by andrei_me View PostAFAIK Swift is to Obj-C as Scala is to Java, similar to Rust
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Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View PostOn the other hand a wait and see approach on whether Apple is going to choose to release it or not before starting such a project does have some merit
All of that being said I wouldn't suggest that these guys stop what they are doing. This projects harms no one and may have significant upside for the LINUX and UNIX worlds.
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Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View PostApple will be making it available, once it's mature. These efforts are a waste of time.
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