Emacs 24.4 Has Built-In Web Browser, Improved Multi-Monitor Support

[Delgarde]

Wait, wasn't Emacs an advanced text editor? Why the hell do we need an email/web browser in it?? Kinda breaks the whole "UNIX Philosophy" that so many people are butt-hurt about lately (not that anybody pays attention to it when it's a project they LIKE :P)

Emacs has always been like that... more operating system than text editor...

[undersuit]

Wait, wasn't Emacs an advanced text editor? Why the hell do we need an email/web browser in it?? Kinda breaks the whole "UNIX Philosophy" that so many people are butt-hurt about lately (not that anybody pays attention to it when it's a project they LIKE :P)

Emacs Web Wowser (eww) is a browser entirely written in elisp and based on shr.el

Like most of Emacs the Unix Philosophy still applies if you think of Emacs and *nix as parallel systems, unless you have some ill words to say about Links.

[ihatemichael]

Neovim anyone?

[peppercats]

EMACS. Making all computers slow since 1976, with a good web browser, a passable mail client, innovative task switching utils, but with a poor text editor.

/flamebait

Poor text editor? Have you seen evil mode lately? It's easily the best vim "emulation" I've ever used.

For actual work, emacs + evil >> vim, I hope neovim doesn't flop because mainline vim refuses to acknowledge that it's strung together with paperclips and shoestrings.

[Guest]

Emacs has always been like that... more operating system than text editor...

Yup, this is a running joke [for literally decades now].

Interesting to see such an old thingy to be still kicking tho, I kinda dismissed emacs (and variants) as tools that only dinosaurs use [insert RMS's beard picture here].

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[doom_Oo7]

Yup, this is a running joke [for literally decades now].

Interesting to see such an old thingy to be still kicking tho, I kinda dismissed emacs (and variants) as tools that only dinosaurs use [insert RMS's beard picture here].

Well in my school they still force comp sci freshmen to use emacs for everything...

[curaga]

Well, people *have* used emacs as pid 1, as it does everything. Thus it's clearly superior to systemd, which doesn't even include a text editor, web browser, psychiatrist, or tetris.

[dnebdal]

Emacs has always been like that... more operating system than text editor...

Keep in mind that emacs didn't start as a UNIX tool, but comes from a very different tradition - it's a survivor from the LISP machines. Those gave you a LISP shell, where everything available was also written in LISP. You could fire up an editor (a LISP program), play around with its code (while it was running), maybe bodge in a special-case for it in the windowing system (also a LISP program), start writing a new program in the editor, log off and suspend the entire state to disk, and come back the next day.

It's an interesting approach, and quite different from the UNIX text files + simple tools + scripts approach.

[Azpegath]

When I originally saw the article, their server was overloaded and didn't respond, while now too much time has passed to cover it -- plus I didn't find the comments too surprising aside from on a comedic level.

I disagree, it's not too late. I don't follow flamewars online, so for me it's interesting to get a re-cap on Phoronix, just to have an overview of the community in general. Please feel free to write about "old" (as in more than 24 hours) news. Perhaps just start the article with the reason for being "late" with it, just like you did here.

[YoungManKlaus]

as the old saying goes

?Emacs is a great operating system ? it lacks a good editor, though.?

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