Originally posted by anda_skoa
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
NSS Updated On Ubuntu 12.04/14.04 To Allow Netflix Support
Collapse
X
-
-
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostYou fail to see it from Netflix point of view. The UA does contain the relevant information 98% of the time.
How does that make sense from any point of view?
As I said it makes sense to use the UA when it contains information that allows to do pre-filtering, but using it when it does not contain any relevant information is not ony useless, it is stupid.
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostThere is no other way of getting this information.
The whole point of the EME specification is to make it possible for a web page code to query the CDM and initiate key exchange.
Which the web site would do if it where interested.
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostThats why it was set up, and that is why it has to be adjusted to account for Linux now generally working, rather then generally not working.
I really don't get why this is so hard to understand.
If one wants to know if a certain vehicle is operational, one can check the license plate first and conclude if they are missing that it is not.
But once that simple pre-check is passed, the only plausible next steps are checking if it has an engine and ultimately trying to start it.
Doesn't mean you have to start driving right away, right?
The useless UA check we are discussing here is like seeing the license plate is from a certain country and deciding that it can't probably be working, inspite the very same model from any other country is known to work.
Cheers,
_
Comment
-
A car metaphor, really? I'm not even going to address that.
Originally posted by anda_skoa View PostAnd it is not used in this 98% of the time, but used for the 2% where it is not applicable?
How does that make sense from any point of view?
As I said it makes sense to use the UA when it contains information that allows to do pre-filtering, but using it when it does not contain any relevant information is not ony useless, it is stupid.
Yes, there is.
The whole point of the EME specification is to make it possible for a web page code to query the CDM and initiate key exchange.
Originally posted by anda_skoa View PostIf that were the case (which it isn't), why was it used to make it generally not working?
Comment
-
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostA car metaphor, really? I'm not even going to address that.
I understand that it is hard to comprehend that computers do not perform magic and software cannot make decisions based on non-existant information anymore than a human could.
A data set that does not contain the information a program would need for decision making is not a viable input for that program.
Like in this the User Agent String. It does not contain platform version information regarding the decision at hand, so it can't be used.
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostIf the check gives a false positive depending on the underlying operating system it leaves them with no alternative.
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostIt's a pragmatic solution, to a problem that there may or may not be a better solution for.
It is a solution to the "problem" of not wanting customers.
However, it is being spin-doctored to be a solution for the other problem.
It is of course everyone's personal choice to believe in things refuted by easily available facts.
Cheers,
_
Comment
-
Originally posted by anda_skoa View PostA data set that does not contain the information a program would need for decision making is not a viable input for that program.
Like in this the User Agent String. It does not contain platform version information regarding the decision at hand, so it can't be used.
Comment
-
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostYou seam to be of the misconception that the filter is for handling Linux users. It's not, it was put there to filter for IE11 on Win8, Safari on OS X 10.9 and ChromeOS, this information IS in the UA. It's a whitelist and Linux is simply not on it.
Hence there not being any relation what so ever between some distribution updating some libs and this check.
Cheers,
_
Comment
-
Originally posted by anda_skoa View PostExactly, thank you!
Originally posted by anda_skoa View PostHence there not being any relation what so ever between some distribution updating some libs and this check.
Comment
-
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostI'm glad you understand now.
I obviously knew that, but many other had the impression that it was somehow related to Chrome's CDM not working on all possible systems.
The UA check always was about Linux in general, never about whether it would work.
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostThere is one, Netflix isn't going to bother changing it before it works for the majority of the affected users.
Originally posted by AJenbo View PostI think this is much more an issue of management then marketing.
Given a position where you are explicitly shutting out Linux users despite their systems' capabilities and getting people not only to believe it was somebody else fault but making them distribute that spin is exceptionally good marketing. Wouldn't you agree?
Cheers,
_
Comment
Comment