X.Org Women Outreach Program Only Turns Up Two Applicants So Far

[wizard69]

Do you fish? If you do do you fish in ponds? Do all ponds have fish?

The problem with this program is that X-Org is fishing in an empty pond.

ITT: actual developers who produce actual open source code create an outreach program for their own project, while entitled manchildren who have never written a line of code whine about how things are unfair because of an outreach program exists for a project which they could never be capable enough to contribute to anyway...

Manchildren of Phoronix: The X.Org developers don't owe you anything, as long as you're not paying their salaries, shut the fuck up and go back to reddit where you belong.

[Aeder]

ITT: actual developers who produce actual open source code create an outreach program for their own project, while entitled manchildren who have never written a line of code whine about how things are unfair because of an outreach program exists for a project which they could never be capable enough to contribute to anyway...

Manchildren of Phoronix: The X.Org developers don't owe you anything, as long as you're not paying their salaries, shut the fuck up and go back to reddit where you belong.

Translation: I will try (and miserably fail) to take the moral high ground by insulting and belittling everyone.

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In any case it was obvious this was going to be the result. You don't change anything by starting at the end. You change it by starting at the beginning. If you don't get more women interested in studying CS, nothing will change.

Of course even then women might show no interest in the field, if the genetic tendency still overpowers the social influence. When you live in a country where you're free to choose your career without worrying if it'll pay enough for the bills, you will gravitate towards your natural preferences.

When you're in a developing country you pick any job that you think will make things easier on you or pay enough for you to survive. Not to mention engineers are respected in many developing countries (partially because of classicism). My class during the final year of Informatics Engineering was 37% females.

The video about Norway someone posted in this thread explains it pretty well.

[dee.]

Do you fish? If you do do you fish in ponds? Do all ponds have fish?

The problem with this program is that X-Org is fishing in an empty pond.

What the fuck do you care? You don't code. Your only abilities include writing whiny, entitled posts on reddit, crying about how teh feminazies are taking over the world or some shit like that. And yet you want to dictate to some actual people who actually get shit done how they should do their job...

Go back to using windows, the open source world doesn't need shitbags like you. The same goes for every other whiny entitled manchild in this thread.

[nanonyme]

That might be true, but how would that apply in this case?

I doubt that any of negatively reacting commenters here are employees of the X.Org foundation nor do regular employees likely feel threatend in their job by a couple of people on a three month internship.

Cheers,
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There's a general ruckus going on in software engineering about too few women, both as devs but also as leaders (at which point usually starts the classic that women earn less on average and there must be discrimination because of that, all other reasons are just lies). It's inviting to see it all as one big conspiracy and systematically rant against all of it regardless of the individual project's justification. Imo this X.org OPW project is a good thing in general assuming the spending stays within limits that don't cause cash flow problems.

[TheBlackCat]

The issue is the lack of qualified woman interested in working with this group.

Yes, that is the point. There are qualified women but they are not interested in participating. The whole point of the program is to get these women interested.

[TheBlackCat]

Think about how most woman would feel after being lumped into the same category as queers and others with birth defects. Maybe X-Org did this intentionally to make sure few woman applied, could be I really don't know. What I do know is that woman in general don't want to be grouped together with people with problems.

Your blatant bigotry is noted.

[nils_]

There's a general ruckus going on in software engineering about too few women, both as devs but also as leaders

How and why is the lack of women a problem for software engineering in general, other than corporations having to fill quotas? What specifically do women bring to the table that men don't?

[dee.]

What specifically do women bring to the table that men don't?

You'll understand when you're older...

[nils_]

You'll understand when you're older...

Thanks for trying, better luck next time.

[nanonyme]

How and why is the lack of women a problem for software engineering in general, other than corporations having to fill quotas? What specifically do women bring to the table that men don't?

The thing is, it doesn't matter whether they do or not. If customers boycott a company because they don't fill quotas, the only solution is to suck it up and hit whoever possible to get customers back. There's already been talk of this. *Again*, not related to X.org but about the bigger picture