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    Default New Features Coming For Qt 5.4

    Phoronix: New Features Coming For Qt 5.4

    Qt 5.3 was released back in May (while yesterday marked the Qt 5.3.1 release). Qt 5.4 thus has been an active development target for many weeks now and it's beginning to show with the development branch locking in early August...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTczMDI

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    Default Why?

    Why does a widget toolkit have support for Bluetooth?
    Do one thing, and do it well.

    Seems Qt is bloated and try to do everything.
    Qt is now a huge stack.

    Is Qt going to be a full stack framework like the .NET Framework?

    Soon you can put Qt on top of a kernel, and you got everything you need for a full operating system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Why does a widget toolkit have support for Bluetooth?
    Do one thing, and do it well.

    Seems Qt is bloated and try to do everything.
    Qt is now a huge stack.

    Is Qt going to be a full stack framework like the .NET Framework?

    Soon you can put Qt on top of a kernel, and you got everything you need for a full operating system.
    Qt is not a GUI toolkit. Nor is it a huge stack (in the sense that a stack is a bunch of items which more or less all depend on each other). And obviously the point of "Qt+Kernel=Full OS" is just an improper argumentum ad absurdum.

    Instead, Qt is a collection of modules (i.e. a framework) aimed at developing applications. The bluetooth module is separate from everything else. If you don't use it, your application will produce the very same code that it would if the bluetooth module didn't exist at all.

    tl;dr: Please don't accuse projects of doing their job improperly if you have no idea what you're talking about..
    Last edited by NeoBrain; 06-26-2014 at 08:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Why does a widget toolkit

    Stopped reading here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    Qt (/ˈkjuːt/ "cute", or unofficially as Q-T cue-tee[6][7]) is a cross-platform application framework
    I develop console-only apps in Qt and they are working just fine.

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    It's odd that this list doesn't mention QtWebEngine (Blink bindings, aiming to replace QtWebKit) which was supposed to be biggest addition in Qt 5.4.
    I've not heard about postponing it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by doom_Oo7 View Post
    Stopped reading here.



    I develop console-only apps in Qt and they are working just fine.


    I even use it for server apps. It is easy to talk to a mysql database with Qt, and the QTcpSocketServer class is very to use as well as Qt's multithreading framework (QThread)

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    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Why does a widget toolkit have support for Bluetooth?
    Do one thing, and do it well.
    Qt consists of a lot of modules, each doing one thing (and doing that pretty well:-). One of those modules is to access Bluetooth, another is for UI elements.

    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Seems Qt is bloated and try to do everything.
    Qt is now a huge stack.
    No, it is a set of modules that allow to build cross-platform applications. There are quite a few people out there doing things with bluetooth and they want a cross-platform way to do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Is Qt going to be a full stack framework like the .NET Framework?
    It already is. Qt aims at allowing cross-platform application development. Hardly any application consists of just a UI, most want to interact with network or other parts of their environment. Qt offers interfaces for quite a few things that are as cross-platform as the UI module. Think of Qt == gtk + quite a bunch of libs used by gnome.

    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Soon you can put Qt on top of a kernel, and you got everything you need for a full operating system.
    Not really, you will need some extra infrastructure. But then there actually is Boot2Qt, so you are not that far off:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Why does a widget toolkit have support for Bluetooth?
    Do one thing, and do it well.

    Seems Qt is bloated and try to do everything.
    Qt is now a huge stack.

    Is Qt going to be a full stack framework like the .NET Framework?

    Soon you can put Qt on top of a kernel, and you got everything you need for a full operating system.


    Obvious troll is obvious. Either that or just plain doesn't know what hes talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uid313 View Post
    Why does a widget toolkit have support for Bluetooth?
    Do one thing, and do it well.

    Seems Qt is bloated and try to do everything.
    Qt is now a huge stack.

    Is Qt going to be a full stack framework like the .NET Framework?

    Soon you can put Qt on top of a kernel, and you got everything you need for a full operating system.
    Qt is not solely a widget toolkit:



    It is a full stack application framework much like .NET, yes.

    It would be a good thing if you could create an operating system from Qt and a kernel.

    What is the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emdek View Post
    It's odd that this list doesn't mention QtWebEngine (Blink bindings, aiming to replace QtWebKit) which was supposed to be biggest addition in Qt 5.4.
    I've not heard about postponing it...
    It is a very recent list, and still very incomplete. Just a week ago it was empty. The only reason phoronix picked it up because an email was send out to make people start filling it out.

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