I've done all of these things, backed up the tracking cookie, Steam didn't care that I was using a different comp.
Originally Posted by kpedersen
Your complaints are much ado about nothing, Valve has already stated that in the unlikely event of them going out of buisness they will kill the need to log in. Valve is not Microsoft.
They don't contribute as much as they should; they don't need your support either.
Originally Posted by TheOne
I don't think Valve provides statistics, or indeed searchability or even a mention on whether Steam itself is required. The only games where I've heard of that option being chosen have been small indie ones. That would point to something like 99.5% of Steam games requiring it.
You are aware that you can disable updates on a per game level in Steam?
Originally Posted by kringel
Here you go. Saddly Steam doesn't supply a list but the community collected one.
Originally Posted by stqn
Here a list, if you fee like counting, but from a quick look it look more like at least 5% don't require steam. http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games
Originally Posted by curaga
On top of that Half-Life 2 is actually one of the game that can be run without Steam client, so you likely to find older version of the file around somewhere, just no idea why anyone would want to play an older version of Half-Life 2, it a single player game, single player game patch are mostly bug fix (so I am maybe seeing one reason now, speedrunner who can no longer exploit a glitch they used to cut time), unlike multiplayer game, where patching are likely to include gameplay change, as they try to balance the game.
Originally Posted by Kivada
Cant believe all the Valve hate here. Any improvement to linux is a great thing, even if Valve does it for financial reasons. Their interests happen to match your own, so be glad. Microsoft right now wants Xbox One to be successful as well as Windows, but gaming is bigger on PC than Xbone. They can't support one without losing the other. Microsoft don't care, they just want you to buy the latest Windows.
Without Valve, OpenGL might even die in the long run with people moving to dx12, metal, mantle etc.
I'm curious about OpenGL5 and how khronos will react to the new apis.
It is daft and naive to believe this. A company which has gone out of business does not have money to fund developers to update software (i.e Steam). A company which has gone out of business also has no money to host that patched version of the software (i.e Steam).
Originally Posted by Kivada
Not to mention the fact that many companies distributing their games on Steam will not give permission to Valve to release their game DRM free.
OpenGL has survived long enough without Valve haha. The "predicted" death of OpenGL is not a new thing and just as before, those giving the predictions were wrong. WebGL for one is pretty much the latest "trendy" thing. It isnt going anywhere.
Originally Posted by mike4
Honestly, I do not hate Valve. I think I hate people who accept DRM though :/
Last edited by kpedersen; 06-08-2014 at 12:27 PM.