So what you're saying is...
Originally Posted by Nille
ChromeOS isn't linux because it's not using GNU userland?
Linux is getting plenty of adoption. What's not getting adoption is GNU.
So why don't you give one of the BSDs a try?
Originally Posted by deanjo
I say that it is Linux but not GNU/Linux and what we associate with it. Its the same with Android. It is Linux but not GNU/Linux.
Originally Posted by peppercats
Uhm, as far as I understand Android still uses GCC, grep, ls, etc. Those are the GNU userland tools screaming out the most. I bet I'm just scratching the surface of what other GNU tools are used by Google for Android.
Originally Posted by Nille
Last edited by BSDude; 05-19-2014 at 05:39 AM.
OS X is a more complete platform. People will migrate to whatever tool let's them work with the least headache because it is a tool nothing more.
Strangely, I find myself to fight and struggle against the computer every time I have to use a Mac at work.
There should be formations to i3wm in schools
The last decade it seems everybody is looking for simple answers to why linux adoption on desktop is weak. I believe all factors typically brought up are contributing, whether it be lack of documentation, hardware support, software support or rapid changes/breakage of desktop experience. What does seem clear is that the majority of desktop users have very little patience for hassle. Even minor hassles can be enough to push users over to other solutions. This basically means that linux on the desktop still has a way to go before being a viable option. I do believe that we are slowly getting there, and that GNU/Linux today is viable for an increasing number of people. However, with Canonical now going at it alone, I am afraid we have been pushed back another five years. There is currently no other distribution stepping up to become a mainstream option.
Originally Posted by Marc Driftmeyer
Which is called Qt.
It's the hardware (and drivers)
I almost bought a MacBook Pro Retina instead of a Thinkpad, and I don't like OS X or Apple's walled garden at all. My girlfriend's new retina MacBook feels like a higher quality machine than my new Thinkpad. Lenovo put in a crappier screen than promised, the trackpad is only so-so and the laptop overall just doesn't have the same feel to it that older Thinkpads had. I could be convinced to stand on top of a T42, but I'm not going to risk doing that with the latest T440s range.
No matter how hardcore open-source and Linux/*BSD I am, these days I want to buy something that just works when it comes to basic hardware and drivers; even though I know how to fix most problems, I just don't want to bother.
I imagine the main reason even seasoned Linux users and developers get Apple laptops is because they Just Work. It's easier to start out with a high quality working MacBook and install Virtualbox than to start messing with installation media, graphics and peripheral drivers and Xorg configuration. Even configuring something as basic as a trackpad to not be irritating is still a struggle.
The preference for Apple has probably less to do with Linux itself than the sorry state of hardware support from vendors and quality of average consumer-oriented laptops. Come up with a LinuxBook that feels and works out of the box like a MacBook, and more people would use Linux... Something like the Chromebook Pixel, but less handicapped.
I don't know if there is a desire in the Linux community for Linux to be a mainstream option. I think the push is as it always has been to flexibility, with mainstream adoption there needs to be tech support and hand holding the community cannot do that in a direct enough way. My opinion is they would prefer Linux to remain an option not the go-to for Windows drop outs.
Originally Posted by Del_