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  1. Those patches are for libinput, but we are still...

    Those patches are for libinput, but we are still missing all Wayland'y bits completely, like the whole protocol for tablets. In other words, even if compositor could read tablet devices by using...
  2. For comparison, on Weston on rpi, you will always...

    For comparison, on Weston on rpi, you will always get as close to zero-copy EGL clients as imaginable. The only copy that might happen is done by the firmware in secret, if it deems that the element...
  3. Yeah, I guess the X11 accel could be conceivable....

    Yeah, I guess the X11 accel could be conceivable. I have no idea how practical it would be. I haven't even looked at the code drop yet, either.

    To my understanding, the DispmanX compositing block...
  4. For the record, it is well possible to have a...

    For the record, it is well possible to have a Wayland server working without udev, and clients do not need udev at all anyway. Weston's Android backend worked without udev, Android didn't have udev....
  5. On Wayland, there is practically nothing else for...

    On Wayland, there is practically nothing else for the server to do on graphics than to composite and present, and you cannot live without compositing if you want to have windows. On that point of...
  6. You should probably read...

    You should probably read http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-users/2014-February/000770.html to clarify how it really is.
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    Different things yes. Wayland has nothing to do...

    Different things yes. Wayland has nothing to do with this. Switching between apps/windows is purely a compositor feature.

    Why are you saying such a thing about Weston?

    Window switching by...
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    I wonder if you all remember, that before this...

    I wonder if you all remember, that before this "alt-tab", Weston got "exposť", and a long long time before that it got "super-tab" (super is the default "alt" key of Weston). In essence, this is a...
  9. Because people wanted to have the basics released...

    Because people wanted to have the basics released and working sooner rather than never. It is impossible to design everything in advance. You will never release anything if you try to be perfect on...
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    Indeed. I don't think DirectFB support makes...

    Indeed. I don't think DirectFB support makes Weston better per se, but it allows Weston to run on more devices than before. Well, I guess you might say it does make Weston better as it runs on more...
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    You can make Weston run on quite many things if...

    You can make Weston run on quite many things if you want to, with varying degree of performance and features. Weston runs on X11, too. Native Weston, if we can use that term, runs on the kernel DRM &...
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    Yes, and I gave reasons for my assumptions why I...

    Yes, and I gave reasons for my assumptions why I believe there cannot be really harmful conflicts.



    That is irrelevant, but I do agree. I am very happy that you will stick to X11. X11 support...
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    You seem pretty confident in believing that there...

    You seem pretty confident in believing that there actually can be any permanent conflicts.

    Wayland is a protocol based heavily on extensions. The core is very small and fairly universal, and even...
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    Wayland does not have backends. Wayland is a...

    Wayland does not have backends. Wayland is a protocol.

    libwayland (server, client) does not have backends either, it just turns the binary protocol into nice C functions in a generic way.
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    That's a very good question I wondered about...

    That's a very good question I wondered about myself recently. I never really asked about it, had enough to do with just lighting up the HDMI output, and I don't even have a composite sink to test...
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    You're just confusing things. - A client...

    You're just confusing things.

    - A client submits complete frames of a whole window atomically; every frame of a window is perfect.
    - A compositor composites these perfect window images such that...
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    This is especially for high density monitors, not...

    This is especially for high density monitors, not for per-window scaling, fullscreening, or anything else.

    That means that everything on that output is *always* scaled by the specified factor,...
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    And I finally got my blog post online, too....

    And I finally got my blog post online, too. Here's a list of writings out there:

    Raspberry Pi Foundation News, "Wayland preview"
    http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4053

    Daniel Stone's blog,...
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    It's only meant up-scaling. While down-scaling...

    It's only meant up-scaling. While down-scaling might allow you to fit a fixed-size application window on a small screen, it would look ugly and probably unreadable.

    The scaling algorithm is not...
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    Because in this case it is the only way to...

    Because in this case it is the only way to support the hardware. It does not offer any of the standard Linux APIs. Instead, it has a unique proprietary API. If we want to use the device, we have to...
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