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  1. 1) enter BIOS setup 2) disable secure boot ...

    1) enter BIOS setup
    2) disable secure boot

    then, either:

    3) disable UEFI boot / enable legacy boot
    4) boot a normal MBR-style Linux installation image

    or:
  2. Can you list boards (x86, I'm not talking about...

    Can you list boards (x86, I'm not talking about ARM) that have this?
  3. You haven't read any of my previous posts, as I...

    You haven't read any of my previous posts, as I already explained that a system with (x86) UEFI Secure Boot can trivially be made to boot with any other OS. Without even booting win8 once.

    And,...
  4. This is a much more intesting question: Are...

    This is a much more intesting question: Are motherboards sold without OS but with Microsoft keys? I would somewhat frown on that, and I would certainly think that's a very. very slippery slope...
  5. This is completely incorrect. you don't even have...

    This is completely incorrect. you don't even have to boot windows 8 once to install SuSE on a win8 certified PC. You can go straight into the BIOS setup and disable Secure Boot, delete the platform...
  6. If you know one of microsoft's keys, you can own...

    If you know one of microsoft's keys, you can own many systems, yes. But you still won't be able to own the systems that has Microsoft's keys removed altogether.
  7. now that's a problem I'd like to see solved.......

    now that's a problem I'd like to see solved.... :^)



    I hear you.

    While UEFI Secure Boot doesn't make (windows) more secure (because it's full of holes), nothing says that it can't help make...
  8. This isn't entirely correct, as you can create...

    This isn't entirely correct, as you can create keys that bear no relation to Microsoft yourself. Redhat is choosing however to have Microsoft sign their keys, which is a *convenience*, but arguably...
  9. I'm sure this is a legitimate complaint. There...

    I'm sure this is a legitimate complaint. There will be many users with this problem. Bottom line is that you succeeded.

    What system was this? Did the vendor provide documentation to you? Did you...
  10. This is just speculation. Nothing more. You're...

    This is just speculation. Nothing more. You're not helping.
  11. I have not yet heard from something like that. ...

    I have not yet heard from something like that.

    Intel is one of the companies working on UEFI, and therefore UEFI Secure Boot. As I said, ARM Secure Boot is something completely different as far as...
  12. People confuse secure boot with "my system is...

    People confuse secure boot with "my system is safe", which is not what it intends to do. Secure boot will not prevent viruses, or people pwning your system.

    But it does cause your system to stop...
  13. This is complete nonsense, and factually...

    This is complete nonsense, and factually incorrect. Please stop spreading FUD, you are completely wrong here.
  14. ARM secure boot is something different than...

    ARM secure boot is something different than x86_64 EUFI Secure Boot.

    there are two things you are overlooking:

    1) you can choose not to buy ARM hardware that has Secure Boot enabled (there are...
  15. This seems misguided - win8 certification...

    This seems misguided - win8 certification actually requires that the end user can disable secure boot and upload/remove keys.
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    Probably will never happen. It's much more...

    Probably will never happen. It's much more efficient to keep the GPU close, and, why would you? Do you want to buy an AMD system and put in an Intel GPU? 8^)

    Also, as Linux user, with an IVB you...
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    meh

    Somewhat less relevant than ITS A LINUX GAMING BOX. If it sports full open source drivers, a lot of people will in the end reap the benefits of it. If it has closed source drivers, forget about...
  18. Uhhh, really?

    ...

    If people are looking for cards that run well with open source driver stacks, this article/test report only shows them half of the story.
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    Looking at the code it seems to do quite a bit...

    Looking at the code it seems to do quite a bit more than what systemd currently does, even from initramfs..

    It does duplicate some of the bootgraph.pl/bootchart code that handles initcall_debug....
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    merging bootchart into systemd...

    it's a drop-in replacement for some of the functionality, and in the long term it will migrate the functionality of systemd-analyze into the graph output of bootchart. It's a nice addition to...
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