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    Yeah, how could they? Instead of helping the...

    Yeah, how could they? Instead of helping the clueless to release another broken version of OpenSSL and thus feed more confidential data to script kiddies like you they opted for a fork they can...
  2. O'rly? /sigh The saddest part is that I got...

    O'rly?

    /sigh

    The saddest part is that I got more or less the same reply from three people and it's painfully obvious that none of you even tested your "solution". That's why we can't have nice...
  3. No they wouldn't. See, systemd is modular in...

    No they wouldn't. See, systemd is modular in theory but in practice it's not because in practice it isn't a thing in itself. When you install a Linux distro most of the time you deal with sets of...
  4. This one is easy. Everything that extends beyond...

    This one is easy. Everything that extends beyond service management is bloat (so about 90% of what systemd is today).
  5. I know why upstart was never adopted beyond...

    I know why upstart was never adopted beyond Ubuntu and derivatives. Though upstart has the benefit of simplicity, ultimately it's just as broken.

    That's not what I was talking about though....
  6. Are you sure? Because everyone says they know why...

    Are you sure? Because everyone says they know why systemd is great but seemingly noone can explain it. :)

    Originally the idea behind systemd (as it is with all would-be init replacements) was...
  7. Just because a lot of people rubberstamped a...

    Just because a lot of people rubberstamped a decision doesn't mean it was the right decision. Do you have anything substantial to say in defense of systemd?
  8. Sysvinit does what it's supposed to do: it runs...

    Sysvinit does what it's supposed to do: it runs daemon startup/shutdown scripts specified for the current runlevel and adopts orphaned processes. Nothing else. I don't think I need to prove that init...
  9. I'm listening. In case if you have something to...

    I'm listening. In case if you have something to say.
  10. I prefer things that work to things that are...

    I prefer things that work to things that are supported, sorry.
  11. Fanboys will never learn. Systemd holds no real...

    Fanboys will never learn. Systemd holds no real advantage over sysvint and all its perceived advantages are either superfluous daemons that re-invent things better implemented somewhere or pure...
  12. Whoever decided to make the switch from ffmpeg to...

    Whoever decided to make the switch from ffmpeg to libav in Debian was simply incompetent. Even if he had ties with the libav team, this is no excuse because such decisions cannot be made based on...
  13. Fix'd.

    Fix'd.
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    Disadvantages are always theoretical - until the...

    Disadvantages are always theoretical - until the point where your mission critical system crashes. You need to be very short-sighted to not see how the unnecessary complexity of systemd translates to...
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    Which basically means green light to systemd...

    Which basically means green light to systemd takeover of the Debian ecosystem. Because you cannot really separate the non-toxic part.
  16. True but all major distros adopted systemd and...

    True but all major distros adopted systemd and that's what counts. Of course at home you can use whatever you want. But imagine you're doing some assessment for a company that is going to pick its...
  17. It is pointless because every part is just as...

    It is pointless because every part is just as broken as the whole. There's nothing to discuss, really. Even being bound by Gnome dependencies is not a justification for picking this crap over......
  18. Sound will always be a mess as long as it's...

    Sound will always be a mess as long as it's handled by pulseaudio. And it will be handled by pulseaudio because everything and its dog depends on it. Now does this situation look familiar? It should.
  19. And so systemd continues to befoul the remains of...

    And so systemd continues to befoul the remains of a once great OS...
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    No. Adding wheels would turn it into a retarded...

    No. Adding wheels would turn it into a retarded makeshift bus surrogate. Likewise systemd turned Linux into a retarded makeshift Windows surrogate. Thanks for illustrating my point, btw.
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