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    I never got that, people going on about how...

    I never got that, people going on about how debian is about freedom and then the next sentence they want to take away the freedom to install certain DEs that don't follow their philosophy ...
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    There is always room for revolutionary...

    There is always room for revolutionary innovation.

    But it will require work, manhours, dedicated programmers i.o.w. systemd is not the kind of project that could be replaced by a talented hacker...
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    In all fairness the alternative would have been...

    In all fairness the alternative would have been being unable to run all apps either because they wouldn't have been in the repo, atleast not in current versions ...

    Sometimes its just not possible...
  4. If you care about statistics one could compare...

    If you care about statistics one could compare the torret tracker seeds of the different Linux Mint flavours, which would only tell you that XFCE is a bit more popular than Mate but alot less than...
  5. Well michael isn't completely wrong, those "new"...

    Well michael isn't completely wrong, those "new" desktops like Mate, Cinnamon and LxQt are gaining users now that they are ported to more and more distributions, and those users have to come from...
  6. The nofail option literally means "i don't care...

    The nofail option literally means "i don't care if this doesn't work, don't bother me" to your system. Also the fstab is traditionally for static configuration, devices that sometimes are available...
  7. Thats a bandaid for this specific case and you...

    Thats a bandaid for this specific case and you know it. We are talking about sane defaults here and stopping the boot when failing to bring up a mount thats not marked as nofail is plainly sane. A...
  8. Unix philosophy is referring to program...

    Unix philosophy is referring to program input/output chains not actual FS corruption.

    As an example in this case take a program/script that takes files as input and outputs them elsewhere.Imagine...
  9. It's strange how 10 years ago I was a kde fan who...

    It's strange how 10 years ago I was a kde fan who couldn't stand gnome, while nowadays it's the reverse.

    I kinda like the default settings of gnome, great taste, lots of screen real estate for...
  10. If a driver is that trivial and independent of...

    If a driver is that trivial and independent of the OS, chances are backporting it from 3.16 to newer kernels will be trivial aswell.

    And Linux is better for old hardware, who says you have to use...
  11. So far i have to say i like it very much. ...

    So far i have to say i like it very much.

    After adding the packman factory repo and the games:tools repo and installing steam(which pulled in everything necessary to run steam games on linux...
  12. I switched from manjaro to it, tried a fresh...

    I switched from manjaro to it, tried a fresh install with a factory iso first but that didn't work out, installer in the live iso crashed on startup for me, so i installed a 13.1 live cd, stripped it...
  13. Tumbleweed was never meant to be a rolling...

    Tumbleweed was never meant to be a rolling release, it is BASED on the last stable release(which is why you have to change your repos from 13.1 syntax to the symling "current", so a major release...
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    Fair enough, though i still get nervous tick in...

    Fair enough, though i still get nervous tick in my eyelid when i hear you comparing Arch and Tumbleweed like that ;). Though i do agree that the superficial outcome is very similar to an enduser in...
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    To your former post, that's the same as putting...

    To your former post, that's the same as putting stable instead of wheezy in Debian sources.list, and I think we both agree Debian stable isn't a Rolling release.

    And yes, if you added the missing...
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    The opensuse:stable stuff are symlinks to the...

    The opensuse:stable stuff are symlinks to the most recent repos, i.e. 13.1. The real update to your system happens when that changes from 13.1 to 13.2. Its like having stable instead of wheezy on a...
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    Correction, Tumbleweed actually contains kde and...

    Correction, Tumbleweed actually contains kde and gnome. Don't want to slight it, but it still lacks many base packages needed to make it a full distro. That's simply not it's scope.
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    Sorry but did you really understand what we are...

    Sorry but did you really understand what we are talking about? Tumbleweed isn't even a distro, it's a update repository to Suse. The problem isn't even that it doesn't offer new versions of Mesa,...
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    Opensource drivers with mesa 9.x? Have fun with...

    Opensource drivers with mesa 9.x? Have fun with that. You would be more recent just adding the xorg repo to your normal 13.1 install, which doesn't support tumbleweed.

    Tumbleweed isn't a true...
  20. At the end of the day he is right though. He...

    At the end of the day he is right though. He wants to advance his project, its not his fault there is no competition for his project eliminating choice for the enduser.

    If you go on like this i...
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